Post-Game Talk: Preseason Game 5: vs. Blackhawks
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cd211
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i completely agree give these guys time here!! To me miller never has been comfortable here, was always looking over his shoulder because being sent down..
Miller Hayes are both Raw but have so much talent - remember they are only 22 and have shown a lot already - playing the games hardest position.
Can someone explain to me what the point of keeping McIlrath around was if he isn't going to play tonight...
Still struggling to see any rationale behind this.
Still struggling to see any rationale behind this.
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Zil
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I don't think that makes much sense, even still. You have him to gain experience. He's not going to play but the sole reason he is there is to learn how to be a pro and part of that is getting experience playing on that level.
Makes no sense, IMO. Play him tonight. Rest Girardi.
TheTakedown
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some thoughts on last nights game...
maybe I am in the minority, but I did not like the Kreider-Brass-Zucc line. They looked nice with the puck, and were able to move and keep it in the O-zone... on paper, it sounds like it should work, but Kreider lacks that little tiny offensive instincts that Malone has... O-zone positioning... I think Kreider could grow into that line, and learn where Zucc and Brass like to function and work on finishing plays... so in that sense, the line could be a success, but as of right now I don't see it as a line that sticks after Stepan comes back...
Hunwick is DEFINITELY the 7th Dman... poised with the puck, quick on his skates, recovers well, lefty shot (which is good considering lack of depth in the LD position).
Hayes looks great, IMO... other than that nasty turnover in the slot, he was VERY patient with the puck and very smooth on his skates in the offensive and Defensive zone
Kostka is ****ing awful... luckily he'll be stuffed in Hartford.
I'm not a fan of Malone's overall game, but whether anyone likes it or not he IS an asset to this team this year.
I'm impressed by Glass... He's exactly like Dorsett except bigger, so his hits actually crush the opposition. Reminds me of Kreider when he checks players.
Staal looks fine in the defensive zone. Still a bit meh in the offensive zone, but I think that is due more to him being not yet comfortable with Boyle.
Speaking of which, Boyle is awesome on the PP... but he should never be on the PK.. too slow and ran out of gas 1 minute into a LONG PP... not that the PP should have been that long, but you could tell Boyle became a statue towards the half way mark.
maybe I am in the minority, but I did not like the Kreider-Brass-Zucc line. They looked nice with the puck, and were able to move and keep it in the O-zone... on paper, it sounds like it should work, but Kreider lacks that little tiny offensive instincts that Malone has... O-zone positioning... I think Kreider could grow into that line, and learn where Zucc and Brass like to function and work on finishing plays... so in that sense, the line could be a success, but as of right now I don't see it as a line that sticks after Stepan comes back...
Hunwick is DEFINITELY the 7th Dman... poised with the puck, quick on his skates, recovers well, lefty shot (which is good considering lack of depth in the LD position).
Hayes looks great, IMO... other than that nasty turnover in the slot, he was VERY patient with the puck and very smooth on his skates in the offensive and Defensive zone
Kostka is ****ing awful... luckily he'll be stuffed in Hartford.
I'm not a fan of Malone's overall game, but whether anyone likes it or not he IS an asset to this team this year.
I'm impressed by Glass... He's exactly like Dorsett except bigger, so his hits actually crush the opposition. Reminds me of Kreider when he checks players.
Staal looks fine in the defensive zone. Still a bit meh in the offensive zone, but I think that is due more to him being not yet comfortable with Boyle.
Speaking of which, Boyle is awesome on the PP... but he should never be on the PK.. too slow and ran out of gas 1 minute into a LONG PP... not that the PP should have been that long, but you could tell Boyle became a statue towards the half way mark.
The fact you don't see or understand how good Fast is defensively really tells me all i need to know, and i shouldn't waste my time responding, however...
I don't "hate" Malone. I can see he is useless on a shift-to-shift basis. But, considering you don't see Fast's defensive contributions, leads me to believe you fail to see the things that happen in a game between the goals.
The bad reading comprehension forcing people to repeat themselves gets tedious...Yea, Staal-Boyle looks great on paper and in theory. I noted that. In reality, it has been terrible thus far. They spend far too much time in their own end for Boyle's skill set to be at all effective. The reason is because Staal is too slow to pucks, its the same reason why Stralman carried Staal the last two seasons, when Staal played. Boyle isn't "bad defensively". But he isn't able to carry a pair at this point in his career the way Stralman did. Staal needs a guy who is better defensively than Boyle. Yes. Plain and simple. He can not anker a pairing anymore. He hasn't had to since 2011. He is a complementary player. And so is Boyle. It is not a good match. Unless, you enjoy watching the Rangers play extended shifts in their own end.
Johm Moore is more mobile than Staal. He is able to cover more ground and close gaps quicker than Staal can.He is able to win races to pucks quicker than Staal can. And he is growing as a player, he is becoming better as time goes on. He isn't bad defensively at all. He is young and is prone to mistakes that young defensmen make.
My suggestion isn't more horrible than what is actually happening on the ice. That Staal-Boyle pair has been thus far, and there is a strong liklihood that it will continue to be an issue at even strength.
Miller is 21, playing the hardest forward position to learn. His hands need to catch up? Again, another erroneous proclamation. His hands are one of his defining attributes. And if Malone has been "fine" then Miller has been outstanding by compariaon. Miller has been effective regardless of him reaching the score sheet or not. He and Fast carried their line last night with their effort.
"There is a reason he hasn't 'put up points'". Sheer ignorance.
the zucc line was our best line. Brassard is still rusty but once he gets in the flow that line will be better than last year
offdacrossbar
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John Malone?Sounds like a horrible name for an action superstar. Maybe I'm thinking John McClain
Lombardi? Didn't he not even make it through practice the other day?
So John moore was traded for John Malone ?
Nice.
This organization lacks patience big time.
I'm sure if he were Dylan Moore...... he's still here.
Whatever. I'm so done with this team.
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offdacrossbar
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Was randomly thinking about the potential fights we might have to deal with today. That thought transitioned to who might be our most intense rival this year, in terms of playing and physicality and pure hatred.
I think we're all thrown for a loop this year - Flyers seem to be become irrelevant, Devils aren't what they used to be, Islanders aren't close yet, Pens don't promise to be as good as in the past...
But the Blue Jackets? I think they're going to be our most hated team this year... and perhaps for years to come.
They got better and tougher and a couple of our key players play extra hard and physical when we play them.
I have a feeling it'll be the start of a new and intense rivalry... and that'll show come next Saturday.
I think we're all thrown for a loop this year - Flyers seem to be become irrelevant, Devils aren't what they used to be, Islanders aren't close yet, Pens don't promise to be as good as in the past...
But the Blue Jackets? I think they're going to be our most hated team this year... and perhaps for years to come.
They got better and tougher and a couple of our key players play extra hard and physical when we play them.
I have a feeling it'll be the start of a new and intense rivalry... and that'll show come next Saturday.
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well, that's you. Most people who have watched the preseason would say Duke has been the better of the two. Easily. Not to say that Hayes hasn't been impressive, because he has been.
I saw your post before you changed it to this, so don't play it off
i meant last night no need to get upset. Im a duclair fan but the hype is getting silly
offdacrossbar
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Tanner glass and Ryan Malone were givens
This kid needs some time in the ahl. and that's not a negative at all.
He's been pretty good really. Looks like a solid power forward prospect on a team that really needs that kinda player.
Reminds me of John laclair.
haveandare
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Not worried about Hayes not making it off the bat. I'm confident that he'll be up and be an important cog come playoff time. He's very close.
