GDT: Preseason Game 04 - Winnipeg Jets @ Minnesota Wild - Friday, September 27th, 2024 - 7:00pm CDT - WinnipegJets.com - Power 97

[Bob E]

I think Barlow has a lot of development to do also, and maybe he ends up being a real solid 3rd line player that adds a bit of offense.

I think if we expect him to be the next KFC, and a high end top 6 scorer, that might be asking too much. He should be watching Nino and Lowry to learn from them. Though he’s still only 19.

 

[gojetsgo]

Preseason is 2 games to long, season should start the first week of October

it does! just only in chechia!

 

[bustamente]

Limited viewing of Yager but he is moving up the Jets prospects rankings for me.

 

[surixon]

I think Barlow has a lot of development to do also, and maybe he ends up being a real solid 3rd line player that adds a bit of offense.

I think if we expect him to be the next KFC, and a high end top 6 scorer, that might be asking too much. He should be watching Nino and Lowry to learn from them. Though he’s still only 19.

That is a good suggestion. He needs to get some sand paper in his game. He has the size to do it.

Limited viewing of Yager but he is moving up the Jets prospects rankings for me.

I have him at 1. Just checks all my boxes for what I like in a player.

 

[Bob E]

I really like Yager’s game and if his playmaking can develop some more, he has a chance to be a very solid top 6 two-way C.

I’m not suggesting he’s the next Patrice Bergeron, but he could be a 25+g/30+a/55++pt 2-way C in the future. That trade would work out very well if that’s the case.

 

[voyageur]

I really don't care how many nhl level players each team had, they had way more skill, it's f***ing preseason, this game has literally zero effect on how the regular season will go, nothing is embarrassing or nothing should give you hope from these games

I'm not losing sleep over it. But I made my point. 2/3 of what could be the Jets 2nd line was out there against the Wild's top line. 2/3 of what could be the 4th line was out there against the Wild's checking line. That's realistic regualar season matchups, for a road team. Who had more regular d-men dressed. I'm not losing sleep, because you are right, it's preseason, and there are guys who played tonight who won't be there opening day. Thankfully our top line and checking line will. But I definitely would have liked to have seen (or heard) this game be closer, especially since it sounds like Yager and Chibrikov had decent games.

Pionk was -4 this game, so he must have had some struggles.

 

[bustamente]

I have him at 1. Just checks all my boxes for what I like in a player.

A forced trade might in a couple of years give us a player that we really really need, I have him at 3 atm. I wonder if he gets another game

 

[surixon]

A forced trade might in a couple of years give us a player that we really really need, I have him at 3 atm. I wonder if he gets another game

My guess is none of the non regulars get in unless a vet wants the game off. I'd expect Arniel to run as close to his starting roster as possible.

 

[bustamente]

My guess is none of the non regulars get in unless a vet wants the game off. I'd expect Arniel to run as close to his starting roster as possible.

Agreed time to set the lines, PP and PK and have them ready to go.

 

[Bob E]

That is a good suggestion. He needs to get some sand paper in his game. He has the size to do it.



I have him at 1. Just checks all my boxes for what I like in a player.

Ya, I’d like Barlow to be a little more aggressive and involved on the forecheck. Grind it out a bit more. Go to the net and create some havoc. He’s young and has been a scorer on his junior team and hasn’t really had to develop a pro style game to have success in Jr.

So it might take a couple of years in the A, to develop a game closer to Lowry, but that might get him to the NHL and allow him to stay.

Yager is my #2 prospect right now, I still have a soft spot for Salomonsson for #1, as a big smooth skating shut down RH Dman which is so hard to come by. Yager, as. 2-way RH C, is close.

Edit: I see Salomonsson was the only plus (+1) dman tonight and Pionk was -4. Maybe there is something to plus/minus.

 

[voyageur]

My guess is none of the non regulars get in unless a vet wants the game off. I'd expect Arniel to run as close to his starting roster as possible.

You don't think they give Lambert a chance to play between Ehlers and Perfetti? In a matchup against Kadri/Backlund?

 

[gojetsgo]

I'm not losing sleep over it. But I made my point. 2/3 of what could be the Jets 2nd line was out there against the Wild's top line. 2/3 of what could be the 4th line was out there against the Wild's checking line. That's realistic regualar season matchups, for a road team. Who had more regular d-men dressed. I'm not losing sleep, because you are right, it's preseason, and there are guys who played tonight who won't be there opening day. Thankfully our top line and checking line will. But I definitely would have liked to have seen (or heard) this game be closer, especially since it sounds like Yager and Chibrikov had decent games.

Pionk was -4 this game, so he must have had some struggles.

yeah, it was such a great point, our one 2nd line winger couldn't match up against their top line that included a 100 point winger...

 

[voyageur]

yeah, it was such a great point, our one 2nd line winger couldn't match up against their top line that included a 100 point winger...

Who only scored on the PP.

 

[gojetsgo]

Who only scored on the PP.

I guess that changes the skill disparity in the lineups because reasons...

 

[surixon]

You don't think they give Lambert a chance to play between Ehlers and Perfetti? In a matchup against Kadri/Backlund?

He may but he alsoay not depending on what Arniel has decided. I'd expect the people fighting for the bottom of the lineup to get into one more game each.

 

[Jets]

You don't think they give Lambert a chance to play between Ehlers and Perfetti? In a matchup against Kadri/Backlund?

Probably not, their charade of giving the young guys a chance is probably extra finished now that Lambert went 0s tonight.

Chibrikov, despite looking more dynamic than most of our regulars will get sent back to the Moose in short order too.

 

[voyageur]

I guess that changes the skill disparity in the lineups because reasons...

You still don't get it. So it's pointless. If I am not mistaken that's 3 SH goals against the Jets have given up this preseason to the Wild. Kaprizov didn't factor in there. I believe it was the d-pairing of Samberg-Pionk who were beaten by Eriksson-Ek's checking line. Correction 1 was our 3rd pairing. You can say Kaprizov as many times as you want, but he wasn't the deciding factor in this game. PPG's were 2 a piece.

 

[gojetsgo]

You still don't get it. So it's pointless. If I am not mistaken that's 3 SH goals against the Jets have given up this preseason to the Wild. Kaprizov didn't factor in there. I believe it was the d-pairing of Samberg-Pionk who were beaten by Eriksson-Ek's checking line. Correction 1 was our 3rd pairing. You can say Kaprizov as many times as you want, but he wasn't the deciding factor in this game. PPG's were 2 a piece.

you didn't even watch the game lol and you don't get it

iaffalo Appleton barron perfetti pionk miller Samberg helle

vs

trenin Eriksson ek Zuccarello Hartman kaprizov middleton faber fleury

which team has more skill? boiling it down as 8 regulars vs 8 regulars is ridiculous, trying to point out match ups like we even have 1 real forward line that will start together is also ridiculous, w/e I'm done lol...

 

[GaryPoppins]

I think Barlow has a lot of development to do also, and maybe he ends up being a real solid 3rd line player that adds a bit of offense.

I think if we expect him to be the next KFC, and a high end top 6 scorer, that might be asking too much. He should be watching Nino and Lowry to learn from them. Though he’s still only 19.

I like him but man, he needs more speed. I see him currently projecting as a middle 6 with power play time. If he improves his skating and adds speed, sky could be the limit.

every game I’ve watched including Penticton, Chibi has been one of the best players. Love his game, he’s ALWAYS around it, an absolute pest and is something we sorely lack.

While I don’t think it happens, I’d move AI and his 4M cap hit to make room for him. I think he’s been THAT good.

 

[surixon]

I like him but man, he needs more speed. I see him currently projecting as a middle 6 with power play time. If he improves his skating and adds speed, sky could be the limit.

every game I’ve watched including Penticton, Chibi has been one of the best players. Love his game, he’s ALWAYS around it, an absolute pest and is something we sorely lack.

While I don’t think it happens, I’d move AI and his 4M cap hit to make room for him. I think he’s been THAT good.

I have some hope he becomes a Perrault type where he can go up and down the lineup as needed.

Ya, I’d like Barlow to be a little more aggressive and involved on the forecheck. Grind it out a bit more. Go to the net and create some havoc. He’s young and has been a scorer on his junior team and hasn’t really had to develop a pro style game to have success in Jr.

So it might take a couple of years in the A, to develop a game closer to Lowry, but that might get him to the NHL and allow him to stay.

Yager is my #2 prospect right now, I still have a soft spot for Salomonsson for #1, as a big smooth skating shut down RH Dman which is so hard to come by. Yager, as. 2-way RH C, is close.

Edit: I see Salomonsson was the only plus (+1) dman tonight and Pionk was -4. Maybe there is something to plus/minus.

Salomonsson is a close second for me.

 

[Bob E]

I like him but man, he needs more speed. I see him currently projecting as a middle 6 with power play time. If he improves his skating and adds speed, sky could be the limit.

every game I’ve watched including Penticton, Chibi has been one of the best players. Love his game, he’s ALWAYS around it, an absolute pest and is something we sorely lack.

While I don’t think it happens, I’d move AI and his 4M cap hit to make room for him. I think he’s been THAT good.

Completely agree about Chibrikov. I would play him ahead of Shaw, AJF, JAD and even Kupari. AI would still be higher in the pecking order so I don’t see Chibrikov finding a spot unless he’s moved. AI seems to be a coaches security blanket that plays in all situations. I just don’t see him moved and Chibi grabbing a spot a the start of the season. But he definitely could have.

 

[voyageur]

I like him but man, he needs more speed. I see him currently projecting as a middle 6 with power play time. If he improves his skating and adds speed, sky could be the limit.

every game I’ve watched including Penticton, Chibi has been one of the best players. Love his game, he’s ALWAYS around it, an absolute pest and is something we sorely lack.

While I don’t think it happens, I’d move AI and his 4M cap hit to make room for him. I think he’s been THAT good.

I don't know how Chibrikov fits into that top 6. bottom six mentality that Arniel has, where removing a bottom 6 player wouldn't necessarily replace him with a top 6 (Arniel's words) player. Maybe Chibrikov plays well enough to change that mentality, but I still think Arniel has his bottom 6 pegged as defensive zone guys. I'd hope that he and Lambert get at least one more game in. I don't think anybody else makes the cut beyond that, maybe Yager, if the coaches want to keep him around the team as long as possible, to integrate him. Parker Ford might be the other guy that makes it into next week.

Did Salomonsson play well enough tonight to live another week?

 

[voyageur]

you didn't even watch the game lol and you don't get it

iaffalo Appleton barron perfetti pionk miller Samberg helle

vs

trenin Eriksson ek Zuccarello Hartman kaprizov middleton faber fleury

which team has more skill? boiling it down as 8 regulars vs 8 regulars is ridiculous, trying to point out match ups like we even have 1 real forward line that will start together is also ridiculous, w/e I'm done lol...

So are you discounting Lambert, Yager and Chibrikov as skill guys? All of them got a real test against some NHL talent.

Lambert played between two guys who were top 6 forwards at some point last year, in fact they were successsful top 6 forwards centred by Namestnikov, who Lambert is competing against.

Yager and Chibrikov have to measure themselves against NHL talent. Tonight was the first real night for them.

If you look at the players who didn't play, you could argue that Boldy is the equivalent of Connor, Rossi is the equivalent of Perfetti, except he's a centre already. Johansson is the equivalent of Namestnikov. Foligno is the equivalent of Nino, more or less. Brodin and Spurgeon are knockoffs relatively to Morrissey and De Melo. The Wild didn't play Wallstedt, who is making a case as the #1 in TC.

So the overall talent disparity would be roughly Scheif, Vilardi, Ehlers and Lowry vs. Rossi, Gaudreau, Lauko. That is significant, and as you did correctly point out the lines were generally tryout lines, which is something coaches like to do on the road in preseason, see where different players can fit. But nothing close to the disparity we had against Edmonton in terms of manpower.

But I think the Wild are a talented team, that could be some strong competition this year. At least they have proven to be so far.

A couple of those kids who played tonight might be playing these same guys in the regular season at some point, so it's good to know where they stand.

 

[Jets 31]

We lost? Well it's going to be a tough season boys and girls .

 

[ffh]

You don't think they give Lambert a chance to play between Ehlers and Perfetti? In a matchup against Kadri/Backlund?

Not a popular opinion but he's not a centre short term or long. They need to play their 2nd line against calgary. And that's nemestikov at centre