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Maybe, they also do it when they think players are playing well.
We can't be naive or sentimental here.
Maybe, they also do it when they think players are playing well.
Interesting. For formenton dorion says “better players made it. “
For brown he says “close”.
Not sure about paquette but whatever.In fairness we should expect Pacquette and Paul to be ahead of Form.
In fairness we should expect Pacquette and Paul to be ahead of Form.
Yeah Paquette has been a solid bottom 6 player for years now, and is only 27. Paul finally broke the door down last year.
If Formenton can't beat out anyone in our bottom 6 then it's sad to say the least
I don't disagree with what you're saying but at the same time we've seen many teams take that route successfully in the last few years. Boston, LA and St-Louis always had ''tougher'' teams and were very hard to play against. Some other teams like CBJ and NYI have also seen success with that style of play even though they haven't necessarily won the cup. I would say that these teams likely took more penalties than others but it never stopped them from being successful. I also think that playing physical and on the edge will often generate penalties from opposing teams as they get frustrated of getting hammered all night without it generating PP time for them. Obviously, and as you mention, these teams also have a lot of talent but their motto was having guys that play the right way and that play hard every game and the talent will inevitably show itself within that system. Talented players are talented players, even if we play a different style we will still see that talent on a nightly basis (EX: Barzal in NYI). Some of the ''tougher'' guys will get pushed out in the next year or will have reduced roles on the team with the younger guys taking on more resposibilities. This year is still a rebuilding year and looking at Montreal for example... We know they'll be hard to play against and we need to have that feisty element to ensure that the younger guys play freely, at least until they establish themselves and their confidence. Once that confidence is obtained and the playing style desired by DJ Smith is clearly understood, I think we will see less of these goons in primary roles (ex: Gudbranson).Totally agree with your post but just wanted to add on this. I hope that DJ is aware that this style of play will occur in more injuries and PP goals against.
I'm not saying we shouldn't play hard, but there's also a perfect balance with skill and finesse that you need to find.
He might be in line for a rude awakening. Hopefully I'm totally wrong and the Sens are totally competitive within the North division.
If Formenton can't beat out anyone in our bottom 6 then it's sad to say the least
Shocking to me.
During the off-season (before Stutzle) I maintained that he was the rookie with the best chance of playing the most games given his skillset which can be valuable anywhere in the line-up.
He also plays very much the style we seem to want to play. Hard nosed, fast paced and in your face.Shocking to me.
During the off-season (before Stutzle) I maintained that he was the rookie with the best chance of playing the most games given his skillset which can be valuable anywhere in the line-up.
He doesnt have one full pro season under his belt and they didnt play a single exhibition game. Relax.If Formenton can't beat out anyone in our bottom 6 then it's sad to say the least
Thank you.That's not how player development works. Most players aren't just good, they become better. There was a time Mark Stone didn't beat out Colin Greening and Erik Condra either.
He also plays very much the style we seem to want to play. Hard nosed, fast paced and in your face.
The explanation is that he’s still very young, and the team brought in copious amounts of bodies taking up space on the roster right now.And they have been pumping him since he was drafted. I wonder if he showed up to camp in bad shape? That's the only explanation...
If Formenton can't beat out anyone in our bottom 6 then it's sad to say the least
He doesnt have one full pro season under his belt and they didnt play a single exhibition game. Relax.
Thank you.
People are way too carried away with the younger guys needing to absolutely take a role on the team as soon as they're drafted, otherwise "they aren't good players". Other than elite guys, which clearly Formenton is not, most guys take a couple years to adapt to the pro game and even more time to become effective and legitimate NHLers. I feel like you can easily see people who understand this when you see people complaining about L.Brown and Formenton not on the team. If the team was run by some guys on this board we wouldn't have anyone over 22 on the roster and any prospect that is not full time in the NHL by that age would be a bust.
Yet, when guys like Lazar, Ceci, Cowen struggle ... then these same people complain that they were rushed. Can't have it both ways but a lot of people think this way not necessarily realizing how hard it is to become a NHL player and how the very vast majority of prospects that are drafted ultimately fail to become NHlers.
If the coaching staff feels like these players need to take more steps to not only survive, but thrive, in their role in the NHL I think that's completely understandable. Our coaching staff has been good giving chances to pretty much all of our prospects, and then sending them back to the AHL to process what they've learned and then apply it in a setting where they play more and can become more confident in their game.