Predict Doughtys contract extention

[deeshamrock]

8 years/12 million a season. Full NMC.

Yeah, that's how I see it, but it won't be in LA. Once Kopitar was signed, the handwriting was on the wall. And I think DD is just way to competitive to stay. He'll go with a contender, a team young enough to contend for years. And I'll bet Karlsson gets that as well. Sens have been trying to unload Ryan and that awful contract to clear some space.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

I really don't see Doughty leaving. Could he? Sure, but I think he likes having the responsibility and burden of turning this team around and getting them back on top.

Didn't he just recently upgrade and purchase a bigger house as well? And a search shows that indeed he did, a $6M home in Hermosa.

http://www.latimes.com/business/rea...y-hermosa-beach-home-20160907-snap-story.html

 

[deeshamrock]

I really don't see Doughty leaving. Could he? Sure, but I think he likes having the responsibility and burden of turning this team around and getting them back on top.

Didn't he just recently upgrade and purchase a bigger house as well? And a search shows that indeed he did, a $6M home in Hermosa.

http://www.latimes.com/business/rea...y-hermosa-beach-home-20160907-snap-story.html

Why couldn't he? Lots of players live in one city and play in another, he's not married, he's not dragging kids around. It's real estate, he'll sell if he changes his mind about living her in the off season. And he's a heart and soul guy, of course he'll do his best, but he is realistic as well. The Kings are a good team but not elite and given the rising stars in the div/conf. with young top talent, it won't be easy to get back to the top
Also, the GM will have other top players to sign TT , TP and potentially GV (when his ELC is on the last year) to sign. DD knows just how good he is and there will be a market for him. Not an easy chair, the GM's. Always have to project outward, to see how to best fit all the pieces in under the CAP.

The choice is his and he could decide to sign here, even if they had the 12M, that's a lotta cap tied to 2 players. And it wouldn't make them a contender. He's been the best at his position for years now and for the last 3, with JQ and AK and co, they failed. This league is becoming smaller, with divisions very competitive. 82 hard games. I think Blake and Luc will try to draft well, trade , if possible, for good young talent to paint a brighter future. But it isn't easy, given the mess DL left behind.

 

[johnjm22]

If you think that Doughty is leaving LA because they're not a contender, then you must also think Karlsson is leaving Ottawa.

 

[kingsboy11]

8 years/10.2 million. 200k more than Kopitar just like when he got his first extension.

It really all depends on the upcoming season. If the team shows any sign of life during the regular season and playoffs then I think he stays. But if they miss the playoffs or are a quick 1st round exit then I could see him leaving.

 

[Sol]

I just hope his contract isnt ridiculous

 

[Legionnaire]

If you think that Doughty is leaving LA because they're not a contender, then you must also think Karlsson is leaving Ottawa.

I honestly think he's leaving because giving Kopitar the C over him was a huge slap in the face for him. But hey, that's just me.

 

[Legionnaire]

Yep. I think he's gone. I don't think we'll have the team to keep him, and the money we'd have to pay him would only make that worse.

On the bright side, he'd get more recognition. At least it will be easy to follow him ....

Yep.

**** that, I think i'd switch off for a few years if he goes to toronto.

See and the weird thing is that if he does leave, I won't have the same resentment I do toward Boo. This organization ****ed up when they didn't put the C on him. He is crazy competitive and wanted and would have thrived in that role.

 

[fsanford]

I see Doughty leaving for Toronto, even if the Kings play decent.

Doughty is going to test UFA, and I think Toronto will out bid everyone.

How they gonna pay Matthew's, Marner and a couple of other very good young players and Doughty too? You think Oilers have cap to sign Doughty? That is kind of what Toronto is staring at

 

[go4hockey]

If we're trading Doughty then we should starter trading everybody.

This. If we move Drew go full rebuild. If he is willing to sign you give him what he wants and deal with it. If he is not willing to sign you move him next off season and tears it apart.

 

[Peter James Bond II]

'Predict Doughty's contract (extension)'

No extension

10 million, 7 years, Toronto.

Marner and Liljegren (rhd) to LA

 

[Vamos Rafa]

I just hope his contract isnt ridiculous

Being familiar with NBA and MLB contracts, I don't really what defines a ridiculous NHL contract.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

If you think that Doughty is leaving LA because they're not a contender, then you must also think Karlsson is leaving Ottawa.

Not necessarily.

Doughty has already won two Cups here and the Kings' era is slowly fading. He can have simply the money, or the team and the money elsewhere.

Karlsson has played on a mostly ****** team that's more up-and-coming, he has an easier gamble on future success that Doughty does in LA. But he could easily go to TO instead just like Drew could. I think it's more likely that Drew leaves here than EK leaves Ottawa and I bet EK takes the smaller contract by 1-2 million as well.

 

[Sacha Baron Corbin]

Honestly I would be more surprised if Karlsson left Ottawa then if Drew left LA

 

[johnjm22]

Not necessarily.

Doughty has already won two Cups here and the Kings' era is slowly fading. He can have simply the money, or the team and the money elsewhere.

Karlsson has played on a mostly ****** team that's more up-and-coming, he has an easier gamble on future success that Doughty does in LA. But he could easily go to TO instead just like Drew could. I think it's more likely that Drew leaves here than EK leaves Ottawa and I bet EK takes the smaller contract by 1-2 million as well.

I don't see Ottawa as up and coming. They're an average team who's future looks average as well.

Turris is also a pending UFA.

 

[Legionnaire]

Not necessarily.

Doughty has already won two Cups here and the Kings' era is slowly fading. He can have simply the money, or the team and the money elsewhere.

Karlsson has played on a mostly ****** team that's more up-and-coming, he has an easier gamble on future success that Doughty does in LA. But he could easily go to TO instead just like Drew could. I think it's more likely that Drew leaves here than EK leaves Ottawa and I bet EK takes the smaller contract by 1-2 million as well.

Whoa, whoa. Karlsson is a major part of why they are a **** team. As talented as he is he costs the team and every single person has to cover for him. That is no recipe for a successful team.

Also, please note that as bad as Sens fans "cry" about how bad their team is, each and every player they have on the team is supposedly worth a fortune and not worth it to trade. They were just claiming that somehow Bobby Ryan and his lazy ass is even close to what Simmonds brings on PPG alone. They are dumb as ****. Stop buying the hype on Karlsson.

 

[Sol]

To be honest, Karlsson would stay in Ottawa because he has a system built around him, I'm sure if he went to a contender his weak defense would be exposed since on a contending team, they wouldn't be building the team around him. Doughty would do better on a stacked team, while I bet Karlsson would suffer.

 

[Docgonzo]

How's Toronto affording Matthews, Marner, Nylander, Doughty AND Tavares under the cap?

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

Whoa, whoa. Karlsson is a major part of why they are a **** team. As talented as he is he costs the team and every single person has to cover for him. That is no recipe for a successful team.

Also, please note that as bad as Sens fans "cry" about how bad their team is, each and every player they have on the team is supposedly worth a fortune and not worth it to trade. They were just claiming that somehow Bobby Ryan and his lazy ass is even close to what Simmonds brings on PPG alone. They are dumb as ****. Stop buying the hype on Karlsson.

Guess you didn't catch any Sens games this season. Karlsson is the reason they reached the Conference Finals. This post is as embarrassing as those who try to discredit Doughty and LA's past accomplishments.

 

[The Tikkanen]

If the Kings stink this season, and adding Cammy to a crap lineup sure makes it look like that, I think you'll see Gaborik and Brown unloaded during the season and more dead weight lifted off the roster. The Kings will have plenty of cash to give Doughty what he wants and if any GM knows you need to keep a futue HOFer in his prime it's Rob Blake.

 

[KINGS17]

If Blake is smart he will do an honest assessment of where the organization stands during the next season, or at the end of it, and maximize Doughty's value to the organization.

Doughty will likely sign a contract worth $88M - $96M, I don't think the Kings should be the team to give it to him. Not because Doughty isn't worth it, but because given the other constraints (bad contracts) the organization is faced with, they simply will not have the ability to surround him with the talent necessary to be successful in a division which will be dominated by the Oilers for the next 4 or 5 years.

 

[KINGS17]

If the Kings stink this season, and adding Cammy to a crap lineup sure makes it look like that, I think you'll see Gaborik and Brown unloaded during the season and more dead weight lifted off the roster. The Kings will have plenty of cash to give Doughty what he wants and if any GM knows you need to keep a futue HOFer in his prime it's Rob Blake.

If this happens, it will cost additional assets. Assets this organization doesn't have to trade. No team is taking Gaborik or Brown off the Kings hands without getting major future considerations in the form of prospects and picks. The term on these bad contracts is still too long for most teams to even consider.

 

[KopitarFAN]

How's Toronto affording Matthews, Marner, Nylander, Doughty AND Tavares under the cap?

Exactly. Matthews is getting $10M+ after McJesus got $12.5M, provided he has another good year, Marner and Nylander won't be taking bridge deals if they have 50-60 point seasons again, that's just a a start, haven't gotten to JVR, Jake Gardiner (UFA same summer as Dewey) and their other RFAs.

Not saying he will stay for that reason, but Toronto doesn't seem feasible.

If Blake is smart he will do an honest assessment of where the organization stands during the next season, or at the end of it, and maximize Doughty's value to the organization.

Doughty will likely sign a contract worth $88M - $96M, I don't think the Kings should be the team to give it to him. Not because Doughty isn't worth it, but because given the other constraints (bad contracts) the organization is faced with, they simply will not have the ability to surround him with the talent necessary to be successful in a division which will be dominated by the Oilers for the next 4 or 5 years.

I agree completely, they would probably be better off moving some (or all) of Doughty, Muzzin, Martinez, Toffoli, Pearson and Carter in the next 12 months, loading up on picks in the 2018-19 drafts and some young players if this season go the way I think it will, meaning a 5th place (11th or 12th in the west) finish.

 

[deeshamrock]

How's Toronto affording Matthews, Marner, Nylander, Doughty AND Tavares under the cap?

THey wouldn't. Tavares isn't going to the LEafs. And even if Doughty weren't , it's unlikely they can afford Nylander , given the other contracts.

That said, they have a lot of contracts coming off the books after this year Bozak, JVR, Lupul is close to 15M and there is also Komonov, Fehr and Moore that's another 6m. So that's 20M. They have a some good kids they can bring up on ELC's and also, would get a decent player back for JVR and draft picks for Bozak and JVR.

Matthews will likely get in the 11M range and Marner 9, so if they elect to go for DD and 12, that's a risky move CAP wise, but on the other hand, they'd have an elite bonefide #1 in Matthews, a good (he was very good last year, esp defending) #2 in Kadri, a #1 D in DD, that's a pretty solid triad of what you need to be a contender. You add Marner and some of the other minor pieces that were good like Hyman, Brown and kids like Kapanan and Aaltonen , top young forwards who should make the team next year and getting Calle Rosen (D) was a good move. Adding Marleau in there and you have a deep team. They'd add a seasoned vet for the bottom line cheap possibly, esp for playoff experience.

And DD, like a lot of players, loves playing for Babcock and is shows in the Olympic games. It's just a matter of what choices Papa Lou and Co make. But it's not far fetched to thnk they could make room for DD, it's just a matter of what it would cost.

 

[deeshamrock]

If the Kings stink this season, and adding Cammy to a crap lineup sure makes it look like that, I think you'll see Gaborik and Brown unloaded during the season and more dead weight lifted off the roster. The Kings will have plenty of cash to give Doughty what he wants and if any GM knows you need to keep a futue HOFer in his prime it's Rob Blake.

Unloaded how? They tried moving Gabby, nobody wanted him. Moving Brown would mean eating a good part of that contract and giving up a top young player or taking a bad contract in return. Right now, their best hope should be that Gabby recovers and has a very good year with Stevens . Then maybe they can move him either in Feb or in June at the draft but it will still cost them $$ and other assets. Brown is a very good 3rd line player and few teams can afford 5.8 M per for that given their contracts.
Not the first team to have tough contracts on the books, nor the last.