GDT: Pre-tournament • Dec. 22 • Finland vs. United States

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Relevance to European sports marketing?

You claimed that FIFA and the IOC don't do marketing. I just gave you links showing that they do. If you want to believe their marketing some how doesn't include an important market like Europe, so be it. This is the wrong thread for this anyway.
 
Any of these articles mention anything about team USA? How were Dvo and Matthews? Was Tkachuk noticeable? How was the defense?
I tried to make notes on US players, since I saw most of the Finns yesterday.

In my opinion Tkachuk was excellent, constantly dangerous around the net throughout the game. Excellent play on DeBrincat's goal.

Matthews was good with the puck and did generally well, but he wasn't as good as I thought he would be. He didn't excel as a playmaker, which was apparent on powerplay.

Loved Dvorak and his line was very good all game long. Milano was maybe more visible with his hustle but Dvorak was just so mature and really excelled on all situations.

I thought that Schmaltz and Boeser tried play too neat and didn't do much against Finnish defense. A few good spots to score which dried up because of Schmaltz' penchant on passing instead of shooting. It was like he was always trying to find Boeser first.

On defense Werenski was steady but nothing special. Aho's goal was mainly on him. I also liked McAvoy and Borgen was steady. Carlo had some trouble keeping up with the Finns. Fortunato had nice wheels and Krys played ok. I thought, that US defense did a good but unspectacular job. They did well compared to the Finnish counterpart though.
 
My few cents from the game. Writing in a hurry so hope this is somewhat readable. :laugh:


Finns

Kapanen was really solid in the first 2 periods, disappeared a bit in the third but still played well and even blocked an empty netter in the end and eventually cleared the puck. Definitely made a positive impression, probably showed most intensity of all players in this game.

Repo was quite invisible, expected more. Played quite soft when compared to Liiga games.

Didn't notice Siikonen much but I think thats good for a 4th liner then, no glaring mistakes, nothing special

Puljujärvi was good on the forecheck, and was pretty much the reason the Laine goal happened as Pulju won an important battle in the corner and made the pass to Aho who found Laine. At times he looked lost and tried to play too fancy with Laine. Kind of looks like he is trying to be the nice guy and sacrifice his own game a bit.

Aho was all over the ice, totally deserved the best player award. Really solid with and without the puck.

Laine played overall solid. A bit lost at times but was dangerous when he got the puck.

Juolevi looked a bit lost at times, but made a few fancy plays though and that skating looks so smoooooth.

Lammikko played well and was really noticeable on the ice.

I think Vaakanainen played okay, stumbled on his own legs on a powerplay and lost the puck but didn't really look out of place overall.

Sopanen looks slow out there, needs to get some speed to those legs. He got a funny penalty for interference because a US player didn't hold his stick properly though.

Lammikko and Niku played well, really solid on both ends from what I saw.

US

Milano was really good. Got lucky with the second goal as he tried to pass and Larmi tipped the puck into own net by accident. :cry: Still definitely deserved the best US player award.

Matthews was a bit of disappointment. Looked a bit uninterested and tried to do everything by himself when he got the puck. Few nice dekes but nothing really came out of those situations. Even though he looked like a man amongst boys, I still mostly noticed him on the PP.

DeBrincat.. man he looks TINY. Skill and grit, but I am not sure if it is enough for NHL. Should consider a career in Europe if size hinders his future in NHL.

Werenski was solid on D.


Overall

Overall the game was pretty even and you could see that both teams played just to get a feeling and try things out. Not really an intense game, even though there were a few scrambles here and there. Finns were the more physical team, and looked bigger which is a bit unusual considering our past with all the teams full of midgets :D
 
You claimed that FIFA and the IOC don't do marketing. I just gave you links showing that they do. If you want to believe their marketing some how doesn't include an important market like Europe, so be it. This is the wrong thread for this anyway.

No, I asked what their relevance is to Euroepan marketing. Also, FIFA doesn't really need to do marketing for the sport itself since it's beiggest sport on the planet and other instances do it for them.
 
I tried to make notes on US players, since I saw most of the Finns yesterday.

In my opinion Tkachuk was excellent, constantly dangerous around the net throughout the game. Excellent play on DeBrincat's goal.

Matthews was good with the puck and did generally well, but he wasn't as good as I thought he would be. He didn't excel as a playmaker, which was apparent on powerplay.

Loved Dvorak and his line was very good all game long. Milano was maybe more visible with his hustle but Dvorak was just so mature and really excelled on all situations.

I thought that Schmaltz and Boeser tried play too neat and didn't do much against Finnish defense. A few good spots to score which dried up because of Schmaltz' penchant on passing instead of shooting. It was like he was always trying to find Boeser first.

On defense Werenski was steady but nothing special. Aho's goal was mainly on him. I also liked McAvoy and Borgen was steady. Carlo had some trouble keeping up with the Finns. Fortunato had nice wheels and Krys played ok. I thought, that US defense did a good but unspectacular job. They did well compared to the Finnish counterpart though.

Thank you!
 
and its not a positive song about america at all.

I'm not a music guy but I just looked up the lyrics to Springsteen's song.

I was born in the U.S.A.
Born in the U.S.A.
Got in a little hometown jam so they put a rifle in my hand
Sent me off to a foreign land to go and kill the yellow man
Born in the U.S.A.
I was born in the U.S.A.

Why would they play that track as a goal celebration song?
 
So there was like 4,000 people in attendance? Do they know they were on a hockey game? What's wrong there? Home team playing and you can't hear anything. I know it is pre-game but still... I hope this is not what we will see in Helsinki.
 


Clearly White should have had the primary assist here He got none, Milano deserves one too for the turn over. (not a big deal I guess, but stats count). The fins D turned the puck over twice in their end on that shift.
 
I'm not a music guy but I just looked up the lyrics to Springsteen's song.

I was born in the U.S.A.
Born in the U.S.A.
Got in a little hometown jam so they put a rifle in my hand
Sent me off to a foreign land to go and kill the yellow man
Born in the U.S.A.
I was born in the U.S.A.

Why would they play that track as a goal celebration song?

Probably the same reason they still play "Fight for your Right(to party)" when that song is actually a mockery of the very thing it sings about. It has a great beat and you can ignore the core lyrics for the chorus.
 
People were misappropriating that song 30 years ago and continue to today. It's played like it's an anthem of pride when it's actually a scathing indictment of the realities that were being ignored as you were being sold shining citiy on the hill. It's kind of hilarious.
 
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