GDT: pre-three game losing streak thread the end is nigh edition feat. A Really Good Team®

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Yep. 1 million per in salary, and cap hit of 750K then 1M

We can EASILY find a better backup and buy him out for less then the cost of his contract next season.

But can we easily find a better backup? We seem to be challenged in that department.
 

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The guys had some good chances but Holt by was really good. Can't be too surprised by the result. The caps should win the cup but won't as they are peaking too early and can't keep this pace 40 more games.
 

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Holtby is really ****ing good. Their whole team is in general, but **** if he isn't the best in the league. He's like prime Ward in terms of his calmness, without giving up softies. I said last year there is no way they wouldn't win the Cup, but I've got to say it again. They're even better.

And poor Eddie, man. I hope the guy gets a chance elsewhere with a decent coach and becomes a starter, preferably out west. He played so small, which will feed right into "justifying" Marcoux' criticisms of him. Zero confidence.
 

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I don't think Teravainen benefited from being a healthy scratch last month. in fact, it seemed to weaken his confidence and he's become more tentative.
i hope he gets through that real quick
 

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I don't think Teravainen benefited from being a healthy scratch last month. in fact, it seemed to weaken his confidence and he's become more tentative.
i hope he gets through that real quick

Based on that interview he did, it didn't sound like he took it very well. Something could have been lost in translation, but he sounded kinda pissed that he got sat for making a mistake or two (which I kind of agree, unless it was something they had been telling him for a while that finally materially influenced the game).
 

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Based on that interview he did, it didn't sound like he took it very well. Something could have been lost in translation, but he sounded kinda pissed that he got sat for making a mistake or two (which I kind of agree, unless it was something they had been telling him for a while that finally materially influenced the game).

Yeah, I don't give a ****. Sometimes you're gonna get scratched, big boy. Man the **** up. If one scratch is the difference between "good" TT and "bad" TT, then I submit to you that there isn't actually a "good" TT to be had in the end.
 

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IMO they should park Rask's ass for a game. He's been downright ****** for a while making careless turnovers in his own end repeatedly.
 

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Yeah, I don't give a ****. Sometimes you're gonna get scratched, big boy. Man the **** up. If one scratch is the difference between "good" TT and "bad" TT, then I submit to you that there isn't actually a "good" TT to be had in the end.

A lot of people don't respond well to punishment, and respond better to support and encouragement. I get that in the macho world of sports the attitude is that everyone should just toughen up, but when you're screaming at or benching a guy who doesn't respond to that, you're not just hurting his performance, you're hurting the team. Knowing which players respond best to what is part of what makes an effective coach. If your response to a player who doesn't respond well to a "tough" style of coaching is to get tougher, and the player stops playing well out of fear, congratulations, you're wasting serious talent that could instead be helping the team so that you can feel manly.

If you want to win hockey games, you have to recognize that different players are going to respond differently to different treatment, and you need to take the tack that's going to have each performing at their best, and sometimes that means that you check your anger and offer the carrot instead. It's hard to do, nobody does it perfectly, but Peters may have miscalculated here.
 

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A lot of people don't respond well to punishment, and respond better to support and encouragement. I get that in the macho world of sports the attitude is that everyone should just toughen up, but when you're screaming at or benching a guy who doesn't respond to that, you're not just hurting his performance, you're hurting the team. Knowing which players respond best to what is part of what makes an effective coach. If your response to a player who doesn't respond well to a "tough" style of coaching is to get tougher, and the player stops playing well out of fear, congratulations, you're wasting serious talent that could instead be helping the team so that you can feel manly.

If you want to win hockey games, you have to recognize that different players are going to respond differently to different treatment, and you need to take the tack that's going to have each performing at their best, and sometimes that means that you check your anger and offer the carrot instead. It's hard to do, nobody does it perfectly, but Peters may have miscalculated here.

Get your logical, well thought-out, sensible post the he!! out of here. This is 'MURCA. Everybody just needs to suck it up.
 

the halleJOKEL

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play football manager and you will understand that quickly because all those primadonna digital soccermans have the most arbitrary feels i have ever seen
 

The Stranger

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play football manager and you will understand that quickly because all those primadonna digital soccermans have the most arbitrary feels i have ever seen

RF needs to buy the the real life editor and apply the "remove all unhappiness" option.

Dealing with feelings...ain't nobody got time for that.
 

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A lot of people don't respond well to punishment, and respond better to support and encouragement. I get that in the macho world of sports the attitude is that everyone should just toughen up, but when you're screaming at or benching a guy who doesn't respond to that, you're not just hurting his performance, you're hurting the team. Knowing which players respond best to what is part of what makes an effective coach. If your response to a player who doesn't respond well to a "tough" style of coaching is to get tougher, and the player stops playing well out of fear, congratulations, you're wasting serious talent that could instead be helping the team so that you can feel manly.

If you want to win hockey games, you have to recognize that different players are going to respond differently to different treatment, and you need to take the tack that's going to have each performing at their best, and sometimes that means that you check your anger and offer the carrot instead. It's hard to do, nobody does it perfectly, but Peters may have miscalculated here.

Yawn.

He got scratched once. Please.
 

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As a coach, I've gotta back up cptjeff on his assessment. It seems pretty easy to predict that Turbo would be a "carrot" kind of kid, so it would be pretty interesting if Peters thought individual punishment was going to be effective.

Having said that, we don't know what goes on behind those big red doors. That benching may have come about because of one of those "I will bench the next person who ____" statements, and it just happened to be Turbo who was on the business end of that proclamation.
 

Navin R Slavin

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It strikes me that one of the things that makes Peters effective is that when he preaches accountability, he actually means it.

And as a "coach" of high achievers myself, in my experience that means holding your best "players" accountable.

Because it's not about that guy; it's about all the other guys who are watching to see who gets away with what, and who doesn't.
 

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It strikes me that one of the things that makes Peters effective is that when he preaches accountability, he actually means it.

Mostly I'd agree with that...certainly it's worlds better than it's been in the past.

There are notable exceptions, though. Has Cam Ward been held accountable this year and last, to the same degree as has Eddie Lack? Definitely not. Hanifin? Probably not. And those are guys that -- again, from outside the big red doors -- appear to be the types that would come back stronger after a punitive correction.
 

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