Power vs L. Hughes vs Edvinsson vs Clarke

[Clam Jensen]

offense, 19>17>13>10 in the real world , add in the offense of the teams they play for and it looks much worst.

What?

 

[biturbo19]

As a Detroit fan I may be biased but I wouldn’t trade edvinsson straight up for any of these guys. If I could do it all over again I’d take edvinsson at 1. Hughes Is a fantastic talent, but for me that doesn’t make up for his lack of size compared to edvinsson (not that Hughes is small but Ed is just absurdly big). A 6’7 unicorn defenseman like him is unheard of.

While i do think there's probably a little bit of homer bias here, it's also kind of understandable. If you think you've potentially got even just a "Hedman lite" in Edvinsson, that's something you simply wouldn't give up. Even as good as Hughes is and could potentially be as well.

 

[Hisch13r]

While i do think there's probably a little bit of homer bias here, it's also kind of understandable. If you think you've potentially got even just a "Hedman lite" in Edvinsson, that's something you simply wouldn't give up. Even as good as Hughes is and could potentially be as well.

I think where I’d differ from them on that is Edvinsson will be more Parayko than Hedman. Hedman’s been great for a lot of his career defensively but Hedman’s offense has always been the true driver of his game and why he’s like one of the best ever. I’d be shocked if Edvinsson’s near that level offensively.

I also don’t say Parayko as a slight. Parayko before the back injuries was a really good offensive driver from the backend even if his production didn’t jump off the page while also being one of the best shutdown guys in the league and he was a key piece to a Cup winner. Parayko’s what my hopes are for Silayev. It’s not “unheard of” though

 

[biturbo19]

I think where I’d differ from them on that is Edvinsson will be more Parayko than Hedman. Hedman’s been great for a lot of his career defensively but Hedman’s offense has always been the true driver of his game and why he’s like one of the best ever. I’d be shocked if Edvinsson’s near that level offensively.

I also don’t say Parayko as a slight. Parayko before the back injuries was a really good offensive driver from the backend even if his production didn’t jump off the page while also being one of the best shutdown guys in the league and he was a key piece to a Cup winner. Parayko’s what my hopes are for Silayev. It’s not “unheard of” though

I'm not sure about that. Early years Hedman didn't necessarily jump off the page as an offensive dynamo either. Though it was always sort of ~there~ at least as a tease. Then something really "clicked" for him, team started to get better, and he absolutely took off.

I'd say my read on Edvinsson is probably more along that line you're talking about, but you never know. He's got most of the tools to eventually explode offensively. But if you believe that he's got more to give on that front as well as being a huge unicorn, i can definitely understand why you'd take him over others.

 

[RedHawkDown]

I think where I’d differ from them on that is Edvinsson will be more Parayko than Hedman. Hedman’s been great for a lot of his career defensively but Hedman’s offense has always been the true driver of his game and why he’s like one of the best ever. I’d be shocked if Edvinsson’s near that level offensively.

I also don’t say Parayko as a slight. Parayko before the back injuries was a really good offensive driver from the backend even if his production didn’t jump off the page while also being one of the best shutdown guys in the league and he was a key piece to a Cup winner. Parayko’s what my hopes are for Silayev. It’s not “unheard of” though

Hedman didn't develop the elite offense in his game until his 8th year in the NHL. Ed absolutely has that potential. However, he is unlikely to play a major offensive role in Detroit given that ASP will likely take the #1 PP role when he comes over. He could see time on PP2; he is a better driver of offense than Seider, to be honest.

 

[dgibb10]

Hedman didn't develop the elite offense in his game until his 8th year in the NHL. Ed absolutely has that potential. However, he is unlikely to play a major offensive role in Detroit given that ASP will likely take the #1 PP role when he comes over. He could see time on PP2; he is a better driver of offense than Seider, to be honest.

Hedman led all dmen in the league in non power play scoring in 2013-14

 

[Hisch13r]

I'm not sure about that. Early years Hedman didn't necessarily jump off the page as an offensive dynamo either. Though it was always sort of ~there~ at least as a tease. Then something really "clicked" for him, team started to get better, and he absolutely took off.

I'd say my read on Edvinsson is probably more along that line you're talking about, but you never know. He's got most of the tools to eventually explode offensively. But if you believe that he's got more to give on that front as well as being a huge unicorn, i can definitely understand why you'd take him over others.

The production might not have jumped off the page for Hedman immediately but the guy was driving play offensively to a high level off the jump as a teenager and as a prospect was an offensive force. Like sure it's possible for Edvinsson but it wouldn't be something I'd expect to happen.

 

[Preposterone]

While i do think there's probably a little bit of homer bias here, it's also kind of understandable. If you think you've potentially got even just a "Hedman lite" in Edvinsson, that's something you simply wouldn't give up. Even as good as Hughes is and could potentially be as well.

the thing with Edvinsson is he probably won’t ever be a major PP contributor. How you value him moving forward depends on how preference between a guy who tilts the ice substantially at 5v5 (which he does right now) vs that extra special teams production

 

[TBF1972]

As a Detroit fan I may be biased but I wouldn’t trade edvinsson straight up for any of these guys. If I could do it all over again I’d take edvinsson at 1. Hughes Is a fantastic talent, but for me that doesn’t make up for his lack of size compared to edvinsson (not that Hughes is small but Ed is just absurdly big). A 6’7 unicorn defenseman like him is unheard of.

devils hope they have that covered with silayev. chara was a nhl player.

the term unicorn is used too often. also on the devils board where some use it for bratt.