Power vs L. Hughes vs Edvinsson vs Clarke

[mphmiles]

There's a balance to be struck between valuing analytics (good!) and viewing them as gospel and completely ignoring every other stat that exists in the sport (bad!).

The issue is that there's no correlation in things like hits and +/- in being effective. Some of the best defensive players in the NHL like Slavin, Tanev, and Brodin average about 1 hit every other game.

 

[Breakers]

Power has lost his poise in his own zone

huge liability.

 

[newfy]

I wont blame people for taking Hughes over Edvinsson, but I'm not trading the 6'7 unicorn that can be dominant defensively in the hardest minutes in the league as of right now for him.

I would blame people for taking Power or Clarke in this poll though

 

[Golden_Jet]

There's a balance to be struck between valuing analytics (good!) and viewing them as gospel and completely ignoring every other stat that exists in the sport (bad!).

Poster prefers soft teams based on history.

 

[dgibb10]

Hughes first 10 games or so were not good, so no,, not excellent all year.

"Luke Hughes has been excellent this year and has the skating to the point where the sky is the limit, with a rock solid year last year as well"

Where do you read the words "excellent all year" in this

But anyways, luke and pesce took a bit to get adjusted. Still good, especially defensively, but nothing special at that point as they improved. They had a pretty awful game against NYI on November 9th, and since then they, especially luke, have dominated for the last month, especially in terms of generating offense.

Hughes advanced stats should be better because he has a better team.

Put Simon on nj and Luke on the red wings and how do their numbers look now?

If you let that logic slide, it would apply to every single other player on detroit and suddenly you come to the insane conclusion that Detroit is better than NJD.

Edvinsson has a better partner than Hughes on the ice with him every second of his time regardless.

Pipe down about teammates unless you want to admit Pesce as better than Seider

Because If I had to bet, I'd expect you to say you'd take Detroits line 1, 3 and 4 over NJDs.

And I GUARANTEE you think Seider is lightyears ahead of Pesce.

 

[dgibb10]

They were pretty good - 51.2 xG% after missing training camp and the first 9 games of the season due to injury is pretty decent, especially under a brand new coach and system. And he was playing with a brand new partner who also missed training camp and the first 9 games of the season due to injury.

The puck just wouldn't go in for him - 1.4% on ice sh% in those 10 games.

The important thing to note is that the "struggles" early weren't even from bad defense. It felt more like they were trying to keep things simple as they got healthy, not taking chances.

It was that the offensive generation was mediocre.

The pairing had a disaster game vs NYI about a month ago, but since then have been dominant and Luke's ability and willingness to create offense has exploded.