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ploppsdman said:
I wouldn't sign with Chicago if Taige thinks he has other options ESPECIALLY if Rinzel signs (I hope Rinzel does NOT sign this year).
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Why? If anything I hope Oliver Moore stays in school next year. Rinzel's development has been rapid. He is having a tremendous collegiate year. I'd sign him and leave Moore in school but I'm sure the Hawks will sign both.
 
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To Chicago- Pettersson
To Islanders- Nazar EDM Toronto 1st
To Vancouver- Barzal and Murphy

Sign Zucker or Boeser or Nelson or Palmieri

Zucker-Pettersson-Hagens
Bertuzzi-Bedard-Teravainen
 
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BHawk21 said:
To Chicago- Pettersson
To Islanders- Nazar EDM Toronto 1st
To Vancouver- Barzal and Murphy
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That's a pretty good proposal, although I'm not sure Chicago is giving up enough to be honest.

The difference maker required to get it done probably puts it into the territory of giving up too much for my tastes. Whereas adding someone like EDM probably isn't enough of a needle mover to get it done.

I'm imaging a top line of Bertuzzi-EP-Bedard and I love it.
 
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GIADF said:
That's a pretty good proposal, although I'm not sure Chicago is giving up enough to be honest.

The difference maker required to get it done probably puts it into the territory of giving up too much for my tastes. Whereas adding someone like EDM probably isn't enough of a needle mover to get it done.

I'm imaging a top line of Bertuzzi-EP-Bedard and I love it.
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prob not
 
Laz suggests Nazar + Korchinski + TOR 1st as a starting point of a trade for Elias Pettersson.

Would I trade Nazar, Korchinski and Toronto’s first-round pick (acquired in the Jake McCabe trade) for Pettersson? In a heartbeat. I don’t know if that’s quite enough for Vancouver, but it’s better than most teams can offer. And if the Canucks like other prospects or players better? I’d be happy to accommodate. Bedard, and perhaps — perhaps — Artyom Levshunov, are the only untouchables in this organization. So yes, in a heartbeat.
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www.nytimes.com

Blackhawks should do whatever it takes to trade for Elias Pettersson

There's an available star in Vancouver. The Blackhawks should be willing to do anything to get him.
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RememberTheRoar said:
Laz suggests Nazar + Korchinski + TOR 1st as a starting point of a trade for Elias Pettersson.



www.nytimes.com

Blackhawks should do whatever it takes to trade for Elias Pettersson

There's an available star in Vancouver. The Blackhawks should be willing to do anything to get him.
www.nytimes.com www.nytimes.com
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Wish Laz would just go away.

I really hope this isn't "inside" info. Hawks need to stay the course right now and if EP has issues in Vancouver what will he look on a total bottom feeder that has a hard time moving the puck? EP's best play is when his team is full on run & gun at a high level.
 
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deytookerjaabs said:
Wish Laz would just go away.

I really hope this isn't "inside" info. Hawks need to stay the course right now and if EP has issues in Vancouver what will he look on a total bottom feeder that has a hard time moving the puck? EP's best play is when his team is full on run & gun at a high level.
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EP and JT Miller issues are widely known. That whole team is a mess. I doubt they're moving EP for a futures package and he is already 26. I love EP but if they add him to the roster its not like we'll be a playoff team.

We are just going to have to muck it out for another year next year. I've been adamant that we need to acquire players other than the draft and I would welcome some deals but the EP deal would be after next year (and if he was magically still 26). Not sure I want to give up all that when he is 28 and on the back end of the prime.
 
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Team is kinda in a tough spot... adding talented players to the roster is a must but at the same time adding talented players this season could potentially knock them out of a top 3 pick which they desperately need at the same time. Drafting well with the influx of picks they've had over these past few seasons would hopefully build a foundation that many players would look to join.

This recent era of Hawks fandom has been a rough one haha. I miss the days where games against a lot of teams were more or less a guaranteed win... Now most teams in the league look at a game against Chicago as more or less a guaranteed win. Oh how the turn tables. :thumbd:
 
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Chuck Testa said:
Team is kinda in a tough spot... adding talented players to the roster is a must but at the same time adding talented players this season could potentially knock them out of a top 3 pick which they desperately need at the same time. Drafting well with the influx of picks they've had over these past few seasons would hopefully build a foundation that many players would look to join.

This recent era of Hawks fandom has been a rough one haha. I miss the days where games against a lot of teams were more or less a guaranteed win... Now most teams in the league look at a game against Chicago as more or less a guaranteed win. Oh how the turn tables. :thumbd:
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ehhh I dunno. they are pretty bad.
 
EP40 has been really disappointing since signing the new contract. Some team like the Rangers can make a gamble on him returning to form and salvaging some form of a window before the clock strikes midnight on a guy like Panarin. The Hawks should have no business moving Nazar/Korchinski/a 1st, let alone "in a heartbeat". That would have a pretty high disastrous outcome potential.

5th highest cap hit in NHL. 113th in scoring (86th in PPG, min 30 GP) right now. Gross.
 
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The biggest thing this team needs is that next selke potential C possession monster. Outside of drafting someone at the very top who projects as that type of player those guys are usually 1st/2nd rounders who are developed the hard way and blossom entering their mid 20's.

If I was Kyle that's the type of scouting I'd be doing right now with young post draft prospects around 19 to 22 years old. Maybe they think they have that in Moore or Boisvert or whatever, but it's not a matter of think, it's a need that has to be filled if you want to get serious about building a threat so it's best to add a few potentials to the pool. If I'm swapping picks & prospects it's to take a chance of that type of player who maybe isn't putting up jaw dropping stats now but is great at the dot, great on the walls, no fear, showed more skill in lower leagues, etc.
 
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TLEH said:
EP and JT Miller issues are widely known. That whole team is a mess. I doubt they're moving EP for a futures package and he is already 26. I love EP but if they add him to the roster its not like we'll be a playoff team.

We are just going to have to muck it out for another year next year. I've been adamant that we need to acquire players other than the draft and I would welcome some deals but the EP deal would be after next year (and if he was magically still 26). Not sure I want to give up all that when he is 28 and on the back end of the prime.
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I'd be open to doing the deal after the draft lottery this year if we have #1OA. I think I'd rather have Pettersson and Schaefer than Korchinski, Nazar, and Toronto's 1st in 25.

Vancouver would likely only make that deal if they felt they had to given that Pettersson's NMC kicks in July 1 2025 and if it's the best offer they get. Funny though as I think this kind of Laz proposal is one that neither fan base likes.
 
MHO said:
I'd be open to doing the deal after the draft lottery this year if we have #1OA. I think I'd rather have Pettersson and Schaefer than Korchinski, Nazar, and Toronto's 1st in 25.

Vancouver would likely only make that deal if they felt they had to given that Pettersson's NMC kicks in July 1 2025 and if it's the best offer they get. Funny though as I think this kind of Laz proposal is one that neither fan base likes.
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I think Id rather have Schaefer Korchinski Nazar Toronto 1st than EP honestly. I believe in Frank though.
 
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I like EP but he was a no show in the playoffs last year and has been very meh this year. Seems a bit slight for a C at 26yo too. I don't mind trading Toronto 1st+ for something in this draft with a package for a player that is 5-7 years younger.
 
Misa might be our answer. Kyle Connor UFA to play with Bedard and Nazar :bb:

UFA-Bedard-Nazar
Kantserov-Misa-Bertuzzi
Moore-Boisvert-Teravainen
Slaggart-Greene-Dach

Vlasic-Rinzel
Korchinski-Levshunov
Del Mastro-Allan
 
BHawk21 said:
Misa might be our answer. Kyle Connor UFA to play with Bedard and Nazar :bb:

UFA-Bedard-Nazar
Kantserov-Misa-Bertuzzi
Moore-Boisvert-Teravainen
Slaggart-Greene-Dach

Vlasic-Rinzel
Korchinski-Levshunov
Del Mastro-Allan
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Nazar seems like he can be a natural C, I wouldn't want to move him to wing until he gives you a reason to. If anything, I'd rather see him center Bedard because Bedard's playmaking is so good he can basically do it anywhere on the ice he wants.
 
u2wojo said:
I think I would pass on EP and just throw money at whichever of Marner, Rantanen, Kaprizov, Eichel, Kyle Conner, or even Ehlers/Boeser get to free agency over the next 2 summers.
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Ya, I’m not exactly sure why giving up assets is preferable to Laz than signing someone like Marner. In his own, worst case, scenario Marner is roughly $3.5 million more expensive than EP.

Would you rather have $3.5 million less in cap space but keep Nazar, Korchinski, and the TOR 1st? Or have the extra space but none of those additional assets. That’s likely the cost of an okay third in the rising cap environment.
 
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RememberTheRoar said:
Ya, I’m not exactly sure why giving up assets is preferable to Laz than signing someone like Marner. In his own, worst case, scenario Marner is roughly $3.5 million more expensive than EP.

Would you rather have $3.5 million less in cap space but keep Nazar, Korchinski, and the TOR 1st? Or have the extra space but none of those additional assets. That’s likely the cost of an okay third in the rising cap environment.
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Zero chance Hawks are giving up Nazar is any trade scenario.
 
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Elias Pettersson is a known commodity versus prospects, I get that. But here's what we also KNOW about him:
- He's 26, and is 7 years older than Bedard and 3 years older than Vlasic. That makes him outside of the realm of our "core", in my opinion as if the Hawks want to compete for a wildcard spot in 2027, he'll be 30 years old.
- He really has taken a step back since signing his contract. It's likely he bounces back but he could get worse. Then we're in a shitload of trouble
 
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RememberTheRoar said:
Ya, I’m not exactly sure why giving up assets is preferable to Laz than signing someone like Marner. In his own, worst case, scenario Marner is roughly $3.5 million more expensive than EP.

Would you rather have $3.5 million less in cap space but keep Nazar, Korchinski, and the TOR 1st? Or have the extra space but none of those additional assets. That’s likely the cost of an okay third in the rising cap environment.
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The Hawks have the luxury of deep pockets and being a desirable destination. Trading assets is the play when that’s your only option. The Hawks should try to acquire free agents before thinking about trading important assets.
 
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