Remember when KC built the Sprint Center like 15 years ago? No NHL or NBA teams have come, and no hint of any on the way.
I wouldn't read too much into this based on an arena project on it's own.
Economists have been saying this as well and cities like Calgary have been ignoring them. There's no way taxpayer funded arenas can recover the city's investment. Even if there's development around it the tax revenue simply doesn't add up - especially when developers start demanding their share of the tax breaks. I think the privately owned arena in Kansas City even said no to the NHL.
Not publicly anyway. Maybe this is dated information but I didn't thnk the NHL liked public pronouncements of interest anyway. There is a local KC family invested and involved in the local hockey scene. I could see them putting out feelers to both the NHL and AHL.The arena in Kansas City is not privately owned it is owned by the city. They did not say no to the NHL, they said they werent interested in having a tenant. But that is a moot point as no one has come forward wanting to own an NHL (or NBA for that matter) team in KC
Not publicly anyway. Maybe this is dated information but I didn't thnk the NHL liked public pronouncements of interest anyway. There is a local KC family invested and involved in the local hockey scene. I could see them putting out feelers to both the NHL and AHL.
But the decision not to have a tenant is a wise one and one that cities like Calgary should follow. If our tax dollars go to building an arena we, the taxpayers should get the money and not some greedy and demented league.
Don't know, but I thought I saw a local TV news report here tonight that it would take approximately three years to complete once shovels went into ground.When's the soonest they could break ground on this thing? Assuming it wouldn't need to be too soon after that for them to get awarded the team right?
Not publicly anyway. Maybe this is dated information but I didn't thnk the NHL liked public pronouncements of interest anyway. There is a local KC family invested and involved in the local hockey scene. I could see them putting out feelers to both the NHL and AHL.
But the decision not to have a tenant is a wise one and one that cities like Calgary should follow. If our tax dollars go to building an arena we, the taxpayers should get the money and not some greedy and demented league.
And that is with full control over the arena. Predators do not operate Bridgestone arena. They just pay rent of like $100K a year which is nothing. Probably limited to just game day revenues from concessions and stuff.KC residents are paying tax dollars for the T-Mobile arena, even without a pro sports team.
I've even heard Tom Glavine's name bandied about again, though not by anyone anywhere near official.
Remember when KC built the Sprint Center like 15 years ago? No NHL or NBA teams have come, and no hint of any on the way.
I wouldn't read too much into this based on an arena project on it's own.
They’ve also been a better team. There last few years in Turner Field they were below .500. If you go back to their last contending year at Turner Field attendance was about to same as their first few seasons at Sun Trust (attendance subsequently shot up with the WS win)Best case study we have...Braves moved from the city-center to the burbs about 6 or so years ago and attendance and revenue have gone up.
And that is with full control over the arena. Predators do not operate Bridgestone arena. They just pay rent of like $100K a year which is nothing. Probably limited to just game day revenues from concessions and stuff.
Would be the only way it would make sense for KC to have a sports tenant.
They’ve also been a better team. There last few years in Turner Field they were below .500. If you go back to their last contending year at Turner Field attendance was about to same as their first few seasons at Sun Trust (attendance subsequently shot up with the WS win)
I was thinking about the Hunt family. They would know whether or not the NHL was going to KC.I assume you are referring to Lamar Hunt? Literally 4 days ago he said the NHL is not coming to KC and that is not realistic for KC to get either NHL or NBA as the city is not big enough to support another team.
A few years ago he loosely entertained the idea of turning his ECHL team into an AHL team to be STLs farm team but that obviously never materialized and nothing has been said about it since.
Glavine was interviewed on 680 The Fan yesterday afternoon. He was excited by the announcement, yet seemed a little dubious about the location being as far north as it is. That said, he said he'd be very interested in being some part of an ownership group and would definitely "entertain the conversation" if someone was to reach out to him. Here's the clip. His comments start about a minute into where I spliced it.
Hall of Famer Tom Glavine April 17 2023 - Chuck and Chernoff
Tom Glavine for his weekly visitomny.fm
Thank you for posting this. I don't disagree that the FoCo area is probably just a touch too far north. North Point mall redevelopment made a lot more sense to me.Glavine was interviewed on 680 The Fan yesterday afternoon. He was excited by the announcement, yet seemed a little dubious about the location being as far north as it is. That said, he said he'd be very interested in being some part of an ownership group and would definitely "entertain the conversation" if someone was to reach out to him. Here's the clip. His comments start about a minute into where I spliced it.
Hall of Famer Tom Glavine April 17 2023 - Chuck and Chernoff
Tom Glavine for his weekly visitomny.fm
The project is the brainchild of Vernon Krause, the CEO of Krause Auto Group which owns 18 car dealerships throughout Georgia, Florida and the Carolinas. He paid $52 million in August to buy roughly a fourth of the development site along Ronald Reagan Boulevard and Union Hill Road, according to county property records.
A Monday news release said the land, which was owned by Vinings-based real estate firm Pope and Land, was zoned to become a regional mall development more than 15 years ago, but those plans never came to fruition. Krause said he aims to provide northside residents with large events rivaling Atlanta’s other professional sports developments.
When's the soonest they could break ground on this thing? Assuming it wouldn't need to be too soon after that for them to get awarded the team right?
Likely State Farm and Gas South. Anything at MBS is far too big for 18,000 seats.I'm all for people living their dreams & being positive but if theres no NHL team, whats he going to do with this arena? Is he really going to be able to pry sporting events/concerts/other entertainment etc from State Farm Arena/MB Stadium?
Should know more one week from today when they plan to make a presentation to the Board of Commissioners next Tuesday at 2:00 PM. They have already filed preliminary paperwork to break ground and it looks like they've already got erosion nets up and a few construction trailers on site.
Likely State Farm and Gas South. Anything at MBS is far too big for 18,000 seats.
Regardless it seems very optimistic that hell get able to pry events away from SFA
I'm all for people living their dreams & being positive but if theres no NHL team, whats he going to do with this arena? Is he really going to be able to pry sporting events/concerts/other entertainment etc from State Farm Arena/MB Stadium?
They almost certainly will.Regardless it seems very optimistic that hell get able to pry events away from SFA
I will say that this is further out than I expected when they were talking about Alpharetta originally. It's really at the very edge of where the population density of the northern cities is.
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