Post-Trade Deadline Thread
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Viqsi
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Without looking up the exact stats but remembering that Gabby was cold prior to the trade and is now hot (at least warm) would we have been better trading Arty and keeping Gabby? Infer away.
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Anyway it probably wouldn't of mattered. Richards would've just healthy scratched Artie somewhere along the way. 
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Bobcat110
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Only through first period, Gaborik has two more primary assists to Kopitar. 
Not implying that he would have helped Arty of course...... Just noting that a player still on our payroll got two assists tonite.
Not implying that he would have helped Arty of course...... Just noting that a player still on our payroll got two assists tonite.
Without looking up the exact stats but remembering that Gabby was cold prior to the trade and is now hot (at least warm) would we have been better trading Arty and keeping Gabby? Infer away.
We just should have kept both of them.
I just finished watching the 1st period of the LA-Jets game. Gaborik is playing great. Kopitar has scored 2 goals and both of them from Gabby's assists. I thought that Joey is similar to Kopitar, but he had to play with Corey Tropp tonight for god's sake!
I mean why Gabby fits well with the 1st line center that recently won the Cup, while we're preferring a waiver pick up to play with our best center?
There's no reasonable explanation to it and all what our management says sounds like a BS.
Bobcat110
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We just should have kept both of them.
I just finished watching the 1st period of the LA-Jets game. Gaborik is playing great. Kopitar has scored 2 goals and both of them from Gabby's assists. I thought that Joey is similar to Kopitar, but he had to play with Corey Tropp tonight for god's sake!
I mean why Gabby fits well with the 1st line center that recently won the Cup, while we're preferring a waiver pick up to play with our best center?
Trading away a scorer when in a playoff hunt....maddening.
Double-Shift Lasse
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Without looking up the exact stats but remembering that Gabby was cold prior to the trade and is now hot (at least warm) would we have been better trading Arty and keeping Gabby? Infer away.
No. That's a poor excuse for an equivalency, and you both are smart enough to know it.
Add in that part of the clearly-stated hoped-for benefit of retaining Gabby was to keep Arty going, and it falls apart completely.
I don't often do this, but you both deserve
No. That's a poor excuse for an equivalency, and you both are smart enough to know it.
Add in that part of the clearly-stated hoped-for benefit of retaining Gabby was to keep Arty going, and it falls apart completely.
I don't often do this, but you both deserve
I read sarcasm. I think it was a play on earlier posts making wild inferences.
Viqsi
"that chick from Ohio"
This is becoming too complicated for me.
More twists than Scandal.
Off topic, but I love Scandal. The acting is TERRIBLE. The dialogue cadence is improbable. How many different people speak with the exact same cadence, clip, and rapid-fire diction as essentially every other person they know? It's really, really, badly done, in that sense.
Still, I can't miss it. It's my guilty pleasure, as long as I ignore the IDENTICAL cadence and dialogue structure of every single character's lines. That's a writing problem to me. I have issues with writing, in case no one has noticed...
It's a slightly more sophisticated soap opera, right? And I love it.
We just should have kept both of them.
I just finished watching the 1st period of the LA-Jets game. Gaborik is playing great. Kopitar has scored 2 goals and both of them from Gabby's assists. I thought that Joey is similar to Kopitar, but he had to play with Corey Tropp tonight for god's sake!
I mean why Gabby fits well with the 1st line center that recently won the Cup, while we're preferring a waiver pick up to play with our best center?
We sure should have kept both of them. As the playoff drive continues it seems like Gabby could have been an asset. But I've also started thinking about how nice it would be to have him in the lineup in playoff games, if the Jackets make it.
Man, just a bad, bad move.
Nanabijou
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I still wonder if there wasn't another deal that fell through, leaving Jarmo holding the bag. That's going to happen in the hectic craze that is deadline day. That's still on Jarmo, but he may have looked at it as a calculated risk to pull the trigger first on Gabby, figuring that, worse case scenario, the Jackets could still make the playoffs without Gaborik, but they aren't likely to win the Cup this year regardless of what happens with the other hypothetical deal.
That said, I'd take Gabby right now for what we got for him.
Robert
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Most CBJ fans would agree, especially with RJ getting scratched and Horton not playing well..
We will never know who MGT talked to or what deals they had or didn't have, but this is fact, they didn't pick up any players of significance during a very important time in CBJ history.
Nanabijou
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Agree with the bolded, but I wonder if JK/JD believe that this is a critical point in CBJ history. Yes, the Jackets need to make the playoffs for the STH base, but maybe they thought that could be done without Gabby (and so far that looks like a reasonable gamble).
Just out of curiosity, would you give up a first rounder this year to make it to the second round of the playoffs? We'd all give up a first rounder to win the Cup and most would to make the finals, but is it critical that the Jackets make it to the second round this year?
I want to make the playoffs, but I don't think we are quite there as Cup contenders barring Bob playing unconscious. I do think we are on the right path though that it could happen in the near future so I'm OK with holding onto our prime assets (including first round picks) until that time.
Crede777
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The price wasn't a 1st rounder, though. Vanek, for instance, returned a conditional 2nd and a prospect. Had the returns been of the caliber that it would actually have cost a significant part of our future, I'd agree. But the returns were dirt cheap this year.
Thinking that we can "do without" or can cut corners to save cost won't lead to victory for this team. They have to pull all the stops, have a backup plan to our backup plan, and take nothing for granted. Don't take for granted that we scored without Gabby, get another top scorer anyways because that's what good teams do. They add at the deadline, not sell. We are a team that shouldn't be looking for more draft picks, we should be looking to add good players to strengthen our already established, young core.
Double-Shift Lasse
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If so I missed it (obviously). Read it as poking fun to make a point.
I also initially misinterpreted your comment on Scandal, which I figured was going to be about Patty Smyth and The Warrior.
Nanabijou
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I'd be very curious to what went down in Snow's office on deadline day regarding Vanek. I have a feeling that he was trying to play chicken with a number of teams and it appears that, out of everyone, Montreal won.
The pick is conditional on the Habs making the playoffs which had a high likelihood of the condition being met (good on Bergevin for getting it included though). However, I could see that to beat Montreal's offer of a 2nd plus prospect, the deal from an in-division team like the CBJ would have been a first rounder. Maybe Snow kept holding out for a first rounder and teams started to bow out and he had to make a less desirable deal with Montreal to beat the deadline.
Jarmo was aggressive at last year's deadline and it didn't make a huge difference to our team post-deadline or this year. I don't expect Jarmo to be a conservative GM on the whole over his career but it didn't pan out this year.
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Don't really know where to put this post at but I was thinking.... Carolina's Jeff Skinner is supposedly on the trading block. could possibly be traded this off season. What would be some of your thoughts acquiring Skinner? his game is tremendous (offensively). We would obviously have to give up plenty.... Carolina seems to enjoy 'speed' players. so Cam + (top prospect) + pick....?
SuperGenius
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Not a chance in hell i give that much up for Skinner. I'm glad he had a rebound year for his sake, but he's still a huge question mark going forward with his health. I'd rather continue to develop Cam.
Skinner is one example of a player I would be willing to give up that kind of package for....despite the injury concerns and likelihood that CAR wouldn't want to trade him within the division. Other players I would give up similar offers for are: ROR, L. Erikson, Yakupov (possibly?)..arguably not enough in select cases but certainly enough to get meaningful dialogue started
Mayor Bee
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For what it's worth, Skinner is three full years younger than Atkinson. Atkinson will be 25 by the time the playoffs end.
Fro
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