GDT: PO Game 3: Columbus vs. Pittsburgh | 4/21 7PM EDT

[Dead Horse]

Epic Fail
Leaky Bob does it again.

 

[CBJ Tiffin]

How many games can a team realistically expect to win when they allow 41 shots to get through to their goaltender? Bob stopped 37 of 41 (.902). Fleury stopped 17 of 20 (.850). I'll stick with Bob.

 

[Sore Loser]

Ah, I see you have brothers as well.

For sure ... two of them, both older than myself. I was always pushed around, and I always took the words to a much, much higher level. My favorites were in my early teens, when I started taking verbal shots directed at their girlfriends.

 

[BluejacketNut]

This was why i was pissed that we got rid of Gaborik for nothing. Trying to grind your way through every game gets tiring, we needed skill at the deadline and JK didnt help us with the trade deadline, Gaborik certainly could have helped us out

 

[EspenK]

This was why i was pissed that we got rid of Gaborik for nothing. Trying to grind your way through every game gets tiring, we needed skill at the deadline and JK didnt help us with the trade deadline, Gaborik certainly could have helped us out

Not going to get into the Gabby debate here other than to ask who would you rather have seen on Arty's right last night Umbie or Gabby?

And on a general level I think (and have always thought) we need to add some skill to balance out the hard working, Jacket prototype.

 

[BluejacketNut]

Not going to get into the Gabby debate here other than to ask who would you rather have seen on Arty's right last night Umbie or Gabby?

And on a general level I think (and have always thought) we need to add some skill to balance out the hard working, Jacket prototype.

Exactly. We need elite level to compliment the grinding aspect. Joey is getting there, but you cant have your kids being your top scorers, they need to be a compliment to your elite players, and then you can go deep in the playoffs. And Horton isnt the answer, he's the high end side of the grinders, we need elite NHL skill

 

[Jackets Fan]

And yet again, like 90% of the other times we've managed to take a 2 goal lead, we find a way to blow it.

Also, it's so annoying to watch Bob make amazing save after amazing save, and then allow softies. Out of frustration during the game I said Bob allows even more softies than Mason did.
I just don't get how he can stop Crosby on a 3 on 1, and then James Neal on a partial breakaway, just to give up 3 soft goals ( the only goal I don't fault him for was Stempniak's ).

Another thing, after the Jackets went up 2-0 early, I thought to myself "I hope they don't find yet another way to blow this" but then thought, "Nah, the crowd is too electric, engaged, and loud to allow them to do that". Wow was I wrong.
The fans showed up for the whole game, the CBJ for maybe 10 minutes

I just don't get why the Jackets get away from their aggressive, hard to play again style whenever they get a 2+ goal lead. They get conservative and allow the other team control the game and the puck. It's like they're trying to lose.

 

[BluejacketNut]

And yet again, like 90% of the other times we've managed to take a 2 goal lead, we find a way to blow it.

Also, it's so annoying to watch Bob make amazing save after amazing save, and then allow softies. Out of frustration during the game I said Bob allows even more softies than Mason did.
I just don't get how he can stop Crosby on a 3 on 1, and then James Neal on a partial breakaway, just to give up 3 soft goals ( the only goal I don't fault him for was Stempniak's ).

Its a law of averages, you give up 40+ shots and there's bound to be a slip up

 

[ca5150]

This was why i was pissed that we got rid of Gaborik for nothing. Trying to grind your way through every game gets tiring, we needed skill at the deadline and JK didnt help us with the trade deadline, Gaborik certainly could have helped us out

Yeah he's really doing a great job helping LA, 2 games, 0 goals 0 assists, -1, only 3 shots.

 

[blahblah]

How many games can a team realistically expect to win when they allow 41 shots to get through to their goaltender? Bob stopped 37 of 41 (.902). Fleury stopped 17 of 20 (.850). I'll stick with Bob.

One's in which their goal tenders stops the ones he should. A .902 save pct really isn't impressive.

Winning with a shot disparity like that isn't uncommon.

 

[Samkow]

We did a fantastic job of limited the Pens to low quality shots.

It's those shots from the top of the faceoff circles that are beating Bob constantly. It's weird. He had a point like this in November but he seemed to have fixed it.

 

[Fro]

played hard, just looked gassed in the 3rd...we stopped hitting and had nothing and just tried to hold on...it didn't work...like Sam said, we did a great job of limiting their good chances...

 

[blahblah]

We did a fantastic job of limited the Pens to low quality shots.

It's those shots from the top of the faceoff circles that are beating Bob constantly. It's weird. He had a point like this in November but he seemed to have fixed it.

That first goal seemed to open up the flood gates - he was just a tad slow.

The Pens defense are getting the shots through. That seems to be about the only thing working for them. Richards is going to have to make an adjustment.

 

[BluejacketNut]

Yeah he's really doing a great job helping LA, 2 games, 0 goals 0 assists, -1, only 3 shots.

It helps if he takes attention away from Joey and some of the others

 

[Double-Shift Lasse]

I dunno - what I felt was that the Jackets knew they'd earned the lead but were being outplayed and knew they'd have to withstand something and I think the whole mental energy thing just wore them out.

Fleury wasn't great but he had a stretch in the second where he made a bunch of big saves that kept the game from getting out of hand.

Team definitely panicked. Bob didn't help. The goals are coming in bunches - and the shots that are beating him are coming from his left.

The D didn't help, at least in front of the net. D and forwards gotta get the puck out of the zone - a few bad choices. In light of all this, the team needs to figure out how to challenge shooters at the points. Yes, skating toward the shooter gives them options and you don't want the Pens skill players skating along in the slot or what-have-you, but I think a little more pressure to the shooters on the blueline is indicated.

Guy a few seats down from me in 103 was a meathead. Made faces at Hinote through the glass as if to challenge him to a fight. I asked his buddy "are you with him?" He didn't answer, as I believe he was also a meathead.

 

[Tender Rip]

We did a fantastic job of limited the Pens to low quality shots.

It's those shots from the top of the faceoff circles that are beating Bob constantly. It's weird. He had a point like this in November but he seemed to have fixed it.

Truth be told, I think you guys are hard on Bob considering that a good number of Pens goals from long range have been with screens right in front of him or deflections.
Part of that is just luck with such a small sample size, and clearly it is unsustainable for us to get as much production from the D as has been the case so far.

Flip side is that you are not likely to keep Crosby, Malkin, Neal and Kunitz all from scoring in perpetuity, so perhaps it evens out.

Either way, just saying.... could be that I just don't know what it is like having a goal tender save more than what should be considered saveable while not at the same time letting in absolute howlers .

Either way, looking forward to Wednesday.... might not be good for my heart, but the games surely haven't been dull.... enjoy the ride, gents.

 

[Bobcat110]

one thing I didn't dig tonight was when Kirk Herbstreit,, with his young son, appeared on the big screen, prompting the crowd to boo loudly. I thought that was classless

Our section sounded like mostly cheers.

They were mostly cheers, but ANY booing at all was too much. Sad that some Buckeyes fans view him as traitorous because he's not a homer for OSU when he's on ESPN.

That's why I cheered for him. Glad they didn't show Urban though (unless I missed it).

Good to know that I'm not the only one confused by all the Herbstreit hate.

It's irrational. I really think comes from the Walmart clad segment of OSU fans (OSU "fans" who never been inside an OSU classroom). Actual OSU alums I know don't seem that way.

http://content.usatoday.com/communi...o-state-unversity-osu-buckeyes/1#.U1ZfK1VdU8o

Also, I assume the whole IRS lawsuit left a bad taste in Herbstreit's mouth too. Turns out that you aren't allowed to donate your house to the local fire department to have them burn it down for training so you can have a tax deduction

http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/local/2009/07/23/IRSburn.ART_ART_07-23-09_A1_DDEIB64.html

I thought the 4 penalties that the jackets got right after it was 2-0 really hurt. Fleury looked shaky, they had him on the ropes and they just couldn't knock him out. Pitt getting all that powerplay time really helped settle him into the game imo. A couple of those calls were ********.

Such a brutal stretch. We score 2 goals on 6 shots, then refs steer play to the other end for nearly a 1/2 a period.

 

[ca5150]

It helps if he takes attention away from Joey and some of the others

Absolutely NOBODY is worried about Gaborik or where he is on the ice or what he's doing, they didn't care when he was here, they don't care now that he's in LA. He wouldn't take anymore attention away from Joey than Comeau does. Everybody cut the crap with Gaborik, he's gone, he was worthless here, he's worthless in LA.

 

[Double-Shift Lasse]

Garbage reffing. Didn't directly impact the outcome but it helped tilt the ice.

 

[JacketsDavid]

First let me vent:
-The crowd was amazing until things got bad, then the crowd disappeared. So congrats on getting 19k in the house, and for being great fans when the going was good but once we got down it got very quiet.
-I'm biased but the official #36 was very biased pro-pittsburgh. I had to rant against officials (it's an excuse) but freaking horrible.
-Reading last page of the thread I guess I didn't see a lot of softies by Bob. At least 2 deflections. He was amazing early, but as others mentioned SOG is the biggest thing I look at as well.
-Encouraging thing is we could have easily won all 3 games, but it is what it is.
-I got a terrible veeling giving up that goal with a couple seconds to go to ends the 2nd, then flet good when we opened the 3rd with our 3rd. Wow that went away quickly.

But it was great to finally have a 90%+ CBJ crowd in Nationwide. It was a tremendous atmosphere early. Hoping to see our first home playoff win Wednesday. But honestly very depressed about the outcome last night. Let's at least get this thing to game 6.

 

[the halleJOKEL]

the #blujax still hav this one. the #pens wil #crumple

#beleve

 

[Nordique]

I don't get the finger pointing at Bob. If you can tell me we played well enough to win last night, then sure I'll jump on his back too, but frankly that was the worst game we've played this post season, from start to finish, not a player excluded.

Was Bob good? No, but he didn't give away the game all by himself either.

This is a team effort and the effort was piss poor last night, across the board. We can't seem to maintain our composure when we gain a 2 goal lead, and in the post season a 2 goal lead doesn't mean ****.


ps......terrible officiating didn't help either.

 

[Double-Shift Lasse]

I don't get the finger pointing at Bob.

If what I've read in this thread so far is pointing fingers at Bob then...

Was Bob good? No, but he didn't give away the game all by himself either.

...this is also pointing fingers at Bob.

I haven't read a single post that suggests "if only Bob had played better, we'd have won."

 

[Fro]

Absolutely NOBODY is worried about Gaborik or where he is on the ice or what he's doing, they didn't care when he was here, they don't care now that he's in LA. He wouldn't take anymore attention away from Joey than Comeau does. Everybody cut the crap with Gaborik, he's gone, he was worthless here, he's worthless in LA.

he was far from worthless and if you really think that, you should review how you watch games...there have been plays where two defenders went with Gaby and it opened up space where Joey scored or led to great scoring chances...I don't think anyone will argue that Gaby was a shell of his former self here, but to continue to stand on your soapbox saying that he was worthless just shows more and more that you aren't actually watching anything but stats...

 

[ca5150]

he was far from worthless and if you really think that, you should review how you watch games...there have been plays where two defenders went with Gaby and it opened up space where Joey scored or led to great scoring chances...I don't think anyone will argue that Gaby was a shell of his former self here, but to continue to stand on your soapbox saying that he was worthless just shows more and more that you aren't actually watching anything but stats...

I'm just sick and tired of people bringing him up, I don't care if he scores 1000 goals in LA, he's gone, let it go! Same people were calling for Prospel to come back earlier in the year as well. It's just so annoying. He just didn't fit here, he doesn't play goalie or defense so he wouldn't help a bit in this series!