Value of: PLD's trade value this summer with 1 RFA year left?

[ole ole]

Your being a bit unrealistic now to suit your narrative.

Being given access to talk to all teams in the NHL to get the best contract, playing situation, usage and chance at the cup..........he's going to give that up just to spite the Jets or b/c he'll take whatever the Habs feel like giving him? Come on now, do you really believe thats likely? Would you do that? I know virtually no one in business who wouldn't listen to all offers before making a decision......he's only going to listen to one offer? You think he's agent wouldn't have something to say about that also? His agent makes a % of his contract, his agent wants him to make as money as possible. He's going to listen to all offers he gets, obviously some will not be interesting either due to money or usage or team situation, etc......but to say he won't consider other offers is silly, not logical and nothing but your narrative.

If Chevy puts PLD on the market this summer and allows all teams access to PLD & his agent then PLD & his agent will listen to all offers and advise which ones they find most attractive to PLD factoring in all conditions and Chevy will work the trades phones with those teams (likely 2-4 teams)........only takes two teams to boost his value.

Lets say in some weird reality Lets say in some weird reality PLD refuses to take early access to talk to all teams and forces himself to stay with the Jets and plays one more year (see how weird that sounds when you read what your saying), he has no choice in the matter not like he's sitting out, Chevy already proved that won't work on him with Trouba. Then PLD is traded at next years TDL, retained for a 1st, decent prospect and 3rd pick and the Jets get over half next season of PLD services which has value to the Jets.

You think the Jets will let PLD walk for free in 1.5 years? Zero chance that happens.

You think only the Habs are going to make any offer and they will get him for a 2rd pick and B level prospect? Good luck with that plan. If rumors about the last draft were true, PLD denies it, but Chevy refused to trade PLD last summer b/c Habs offer wasn't good enough......so Chevy isn't giving PLD away. The worst value the Jets can possibly get for PLD is at next years TDL, retained he easily gets a 1st, decent prospect & mid range pick (3rd or 4th).

1st . I never even suggested that he doesn't talk to other teams.
2nd,Never suggested that his value was only 2rd pick and B level prospect
All i asked if he makes it clear he's going to become a FA no matter who he's traded to does that diminish his value? Your answer on that would be fine. All the other rubbish which had nothing to do with my question i don't need..

How many games have you watched PLD play in his NHL career? Not trying to be a dick, just asking b/c you need to watch him play more and stop reading the internet & stat watching. He's a center, only plays center and the only time he's play wing is for a short time after his trade to the Jets learning the new systems and when he was hurt. Seriously the Jets play tonight, watch the game and enjoy it. PLD plays every single game at center, sometimes he plays the boards on the PP.

PLD worked hard on improving his FO % over the summer, which has always been a weaker part of his game and this season him and Lowry are the Jets best FO guys. Literally the Jets 2nd line is PLD's line that he centers. Hopefully that clears that up.

You the one that said and i quote [ No, he's a center, check his stats.]

Since you said that please show me his stats which says he a C. I did as you suggested and found none that said he was a C. If he's been a C all his NHL career it 's strange no site states it. That is why i asked.

 

[SensFan4lyfe]

Players want to play for winning teams. Montreal was the worst team in the league last year.

Every team has good young d. The difference is they other teams have good NHL defence men that should be playing in the NHL and their young d are developing in the minors.

Every team has better players up front to build on. That is why they are winning now, and Montreal was bottom of the league.

Everyone will be drafting at this years draft. Doesn’t mean Montreal will get the only good players.

I would say you should start watching hockey and not believing everything you read on the Habs forums. Why would a 24 year old player go to a team that just finished last, hoping draft picks and young d that should be in the minors turn out to be good enough to make the playoffs. PLD already saiid playing for a winning team is his most important priority, not playing for a losing team that hopes draft picks and a couple 40-50 point forwards will get them their.

Time to take off you homer goggles.

Caufield- present and future 30 goal scorer
Suzuki- Present and future number center
Slavk- Future 1-2nd line power forward
Dach

Possibly multiple firsts in this up coming draft

young deep D that is showing promise this season

Top teams that were at the bottom

New Jersey
The Avs
Tampa
Chicago
Toronto

All teams nowadays spend time at the bottom to rebuild its called tanking

Montreal has a bright future and capable management now

They could be a play off team within 2 years easily if they signed him

 

[Hunter368]

You the one that said and i quote [ No, he's a center, check his stats.]

Since you said that please show me his stats which says he a C. I did as you suggested and found none that said he was a C. If he's been a C all his NHL career it 's strange no site states it. That is why i asked.

Don’t check DB, they often list a players weight when they were drafted and leave it the same for years.

I’m not doing your work for you, watch hockey games and stop looking at DB. Really you might want to not comment on a player clearly you don’t watch play, you didn’t even realize he’s a Center.

 

[MardyBum]

Hans will just sign him as free agent and leave Winnipeg with nothing.

Good for Habs fans thinking he's going to jump right home without seeing what's out there, but you're delusional if you think the Jets are going to let him walk to UFA for nothing.

 

[ole ole]

Pierre-Luc Dubois - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

TY.

 

[MardyBum]

I had no idea so many places wrongly list PLD as a winger, that's actually hilarious, and a good way to point out who doesn't watch him play .

Perfetti a C and PLD a LW according to Naturalstattrick

 

[KingBogo]

1st . I never even suggested that he doesn't talk to other teams.
2nd,Never suggested that his value was only 2rd pick and B level prospect
All i asked if he makes it clear he's going to become a FA no matter who he's traded to does that diminish his value? Your answer on that would be fine. All the other rubbish which had nothing to do with my question i don't need..


You the one that said and i quote [ No, he's a center, check his stats.]

Since you said that please show me his stats which says he a C. I did as you suggested and found none that said he was a C. If he's been a C all his NHL career it 's strange no site states it. That is why i asked.

PLD plays center every single game every single shift. Nothing but center and only center. I’m a season ticket holder and watch every game and I know where center ice is who plays center. Saying he doesn’t play center if beyond uniformed.

 

[ole ole]

Good for Habs fans thinking he's going to jump right home without seeing what's out there, but you're delusional if you think the Jets are going to let him walk to UFA for nothing.

Of course he's gonna see what's out there. He doesn't have to decide that this or next season. He'll wait to become a FA and then he'll see who really wants him. Would you give up the farm for a player who says he is going to test the FA the following yr?

I had no idea so many places wrongly list PLD as a winger, that's actually hilarious, and a good way to point out who doesn't watch him play .

Perfetti a C and PLD a LW according to Naturalstattrick

Ya most of us don't bother to watch the Jets.

 

[Hunter368]

PLD plays center every single game every single shift. Nothing but center and nothing but center. I’m a season ticket holder and watch every game and I know where center ice is who plays center.

Shocked people argue that PLD is a winger, clearly they don’t watch him play ever but still argue about his value via trade. Weird

 

[NewEraGM]

this 100% won't happen

Maybe he gets trade to another team before but Habs won’t trade for him. We will sign him for free from someone

 

[gojetsgo]

Maybe he gets trade to another team before but Habs won’t trade for him. We will sign him for free from someone

cool...

 

[NewEraGM]

Good for Habs fans thinking he's going to jump right home without seeing what's out there, but you're delusional if you think the Jets are going to let him walk to UFA for nothing.

I agree. I meant Habs will sign him from someone. I do agree jets will trade him before but it won’t be to the habs

 

[Hunter368]

Maybe he gets trade to another team before but Habs won’t trade for him. We will sign him for free from someone

Which is cool and at that point has zero effect on the Jets.

 

[NewEraGM]

Which is cool and at that point has zero effect on the Jets.

Yea that’s fair.

 

[MardyBum]

Of course he's gonna see what's out there. He doesn't have to decide that this or next season. He'll wait to become a FA and then he'll see who really wants him. Would you give up the farm for a player who says he is going to test the FA the following yr?


Ya most of us don't bother to watch the Jets.

If you want him to avoid getting to FA? Yeah.

And no worries, it's been made pretty clear the last 6 months

 

[GreenLine]

Dubois is clearly going to sign with a team that has good direction and for 7 or 8 years. Gets to play for a team that is in the right direction and also gets to set his family up for life. I'd be shocked he don't choose this road.

Guess he's not going to Montreal then. They'll still suck for a few more years at least

 

[Boxertim]

Didn’t read everything…so this may have been said…but I’d think will just ride him out and let him go as a UFA. I don’t think that Laine or Dubois are going to be long term flagship team players….they are both just complimentary players and they will both be paid far too much

 

[LVCarson]

Caufield- present and future 30 goal scorer
Suzuki- Present and future number center
Slavk- Future 1-2nd line power forward
Dach

Possibly multiple firsts in this up coming draft

young deep D that is showing promise this season

Top teams that were at the bottom

New Jersey
The Avs
Tampa
Chicago
Toronto

All teams nowadays spend time at the bottom to rebuild its called tanking

Montreal has a bright future and capable management now

They could be a play off team within 2 years easily if they signed him

When has Caufield been a30 goal scorer? He is a 30-40 point per season player.

Suzuki a 1c in the worst team in the league. That’s like being the prettiest girl at the lower colony.

Slaf a power top line power forward…he has to learn to skate with his head up to even stay in the league. Otherwise the only thing power about him will be his wheelchair.

I think you forgot to finish your thoughts on Dach. Maybe not a lot to say about a player averaging 6 goals a year.

Montreal could have a bright future if they were an OHL team.

Playoffs, that’s funny.

 

[Truenorthducky]

Watching him play last year and now this year his stock is extremely high right now.

I had no idea so many places wrongly list PLD as a winger, that's actually hilarious, and a good way to point out who doesn't watch him play .

Perfetti a C and PLD a LW according to Naturalstattrick

Every person that is questioning his position probably hasn’t seen him ever play a game outside of their own team playing against him.

 

[Hunter368]

Didn’t read everything…so this may have been said…but I’d think will just ride him out and let him go as a UFA. I don’t think that Laine or Dubois are going to be long term flagship team players….they are both just complimentary players and they will both be paid far too much

Depends how a person defines a flagship player Vs a complimentary player.

IMO neither the Habs or Jets have a flagship or superstar player outside of maybe Helle & Price (from few years ago). Certainly none of either teams D or forwards are what I would call a flagship or superstar level player that can carry a franchise (albeit both teams have some good players, just not what I would call franchise players). Laine certainly isn’t, he’s nothing but a winger and one who highly depends on his line mates to get him the puck and feed him.

 

[Weezeric]

Maybe he gets trade to another team before but Habs won’t trade for him. We will sign him for free from someone

Ya he’s going to play with Huberdeau…

 

[WolfgangPuck]

Doubt the Jets trade PLD this season based on how they are playing. Looks like playoffs this season. However, what's going to happen this summer?

PLD recently said it's not out of the question he can stay with the Jets and resign but when I look at the direction, it looks like a rebuild or mini reset is in the future cards?

* PLD has one RFA year left
* Scheifele has 1 year in term left then UFA
* Hellebuyck has 1 year left in term then UFA
* Wheeler has 1 year left in term then UFA
* Ehlers has 2 years left then UFA
* Key parts signs past 2 more years are Connor and Morrissey

Based on structure on contracts with PLD first to extend (possibly), I think he still forces his way to UFA. If the Jets trade him this summer (Maybe draft day), what is his value?

Is Debrincat for the 7th pick close in value? Jets are not strangers to trading someone with one RFA year left that wants out... Trouba returned the 20th pick and Poink.

Next year might be a good year for Jets to tank and trade PLD, Hellebuyck,Schiefele and Wheeler at the TD for a rebuild. Likely get a lot of 1st rounders and more

 

[Habs Halifax]

Next year might be a good year for Jets to tank and trade PLD, Hellebuyck,Schiefele and Wheeler at the TD for a rebuild. Likely get a lot of 1st rounders and more

It appears so but I guess the Jets are focusing on the playoffs right now. Not sure what direction they take if they go on a deep run. 2nd or 3rd round. West is not as strong as it once was.

But if they do decide to rebuild, they can get a lot for their expiring contracts no doubt. It will come at a time when it's easier to move contracts too with a higher cap. Might line up well

 

[lomiller1]

Ya most of us don't bother to watch the Jets.

So you are commenting on PLS's trade value while having no idea how good he is or even what position he plays? Things are starting to become a lot clearer...

 

[Habs Halifax]

Guess he's not going to Montreal then. They'll still suck for a few more years at least

I don't think we suck as bad as what you are eluding too but we are at the point of rebuild/transition years. I think he knows the direction we are on very well and is very much interested. It's a good time to come home but first, help the Jets this season and go from there. Dubois is one year older than Suzuki. He fits us and we fit him.
If the Jets ask for more than this, we are out and take our chances he reaches UFA.
* Panthers 1st (10-20 range... more likely 10-16 range IMO)
* Dvorak. Don't care if you take him or not but if you trade PLD and are rebuilding, this should not be a problem and it's a good contract to have for rebuild/retool years. If you say no to Dvorak, we will keep him and we do have the cap space to fit it all in.
* Harris. Similar to the Poink piece in the Trouba trade.
* Kidney. The sweetener. Had a very good age 18 season in the Q last year and is doing it again at age 19 on a team that is not very good.