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Goals against update for the Kings defense. GA/60 or goals against per 60 minutes played at even strength. Lower is better. I choose 9 games played or more since Spence has played 9.
Moverare 1.2
Maatta 1.6
Roy 1.8
Spence 1.8
Edler 1.9
Bjornfot 2.3
Anderson 2.5
Doughty 2.8
Durzi 3.1
* Note Stecher is 0.0 in 3 games
 
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regulate said:
Goals against update for the Kings defense. GA/60 or goals against per 60 minutes played at even strength. Lower is better. I choose 9 games played or more since Spence has played 9.
Moverare 1.2
Maatta 1.6
Roy 1.8
Spence 1.8
Edler 1.9
Bjornfot 2.3
Anderson 2.5
Doughty 2.8
Durzi 3.1
* Note Stecher is 0.0 in 3 games
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I'd like to see Durzi with & without Bjornfot & vice-versa. My gut feeling is that Bjornfot improves Durzi defensively (covers his ass), and Durzi does the opposite to Bjornfot - but that they balance well together.
 
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Since Durzi is due a new contract how much will he get? Neither Durzi or Walker have much trade value
I would keep the one that is the cheapest since at best there your 6 or 7 defenseman.
 
regulate said:
Goals against update for the Kings defense. GA/60 or goals against per 60 minutes played at even strength. Lower is better. I choose 9 games played or more since Spence has played 9.
Moverare 1.2
Maatta 1.6
Roy 1.8
Spence 1.8
Edler 1.9
Bjornfot 2.3
Anderson 2.5
Doughty 2.8
Durzi 3.1
* Note Stecher is 0.0 in 3 games
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This just goes to show how you can make numbers look like whatever you want,

Does anyone really believe Moverare is our best defensive dman that has played 9 or more games? Anyone?
 
LAKings88 said:
Anderson Doughty
Durzi Roy
Bjornfot Spence
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I like this setup because Doughty with Durzi makes Drew the babysitter and cuts his game in half. He becomes the responsible stay at home Dman.

These pairings have 1 puck mover/offensive thinker with 1 stay at home less of a risk taker.

Don’t need both Dmen jumping up to join the rush every chance they get.
 
LAKings88 said:
Roy is a solid dman which isn't up for debate.

The question is do you take him over Spence/Faber/ Clarke?

Clarke and Faber can play in the AHL and OHL for a year buying time.

Andersson and Bjornfort aren't as good as Roy but both are similar non-offensive players that can be paired with offensive guys.

Then it comes down to Durzi and Spence. Spence can go back down for another year but is that what's best for him? Is his upside higher than both Durzi and Roy? He was having a ROTY type season in the AHL for what that is worth. Seems more sound defensively than Durzi but is a bit smaller. Durzi also brings that glue locker room element.

My guess (not deep or anything) is Walker is traded and Spence has another year in the AHL.

??? Doughty
Anderson Durzi
Bjornfort Roy
Moverare

AHL:
Spence
Faber
Grans
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In my opinion Bjornfort > Roy
 
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regulate said:
Goals against update for the Kings defense. GA/60 or goals against per 60 minutes played at even strength. Lower is better. I choose 9 games played or more since Spence has played 9.
Moverare 1.2
Maatta 1.6
Roy 1.8
Spence 1.8
Edler 1.9
Bjornfot 2.3
Anderson 2.5
Doughty 2.8
Durzi 3.1
* Note Stecher is 0.0 in 3 games
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Since this is a Walker thread, he is up over 3 GA/60 for the last three seasons.

Correction from earlier post.
 
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What all of these various combos lack is a Mitchell/Greene/Scuderi type of SAH / shutdown D.

Really would like us to trade for one… someone capable of clearing the front of the net.

If we move walker or anyone else, I Hope that’s the direction we go in
 
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I also like Clarke coming into the league on that 2nd pairing next year next to Durzi next season for a Kamakazi pairing.
 
Re: Walker I think it would be silly to trade him at reduced value just to trade him. He's a versatile d-men who can play all situations and both sides, I think he gets the opportunity to at least show what he's got at camp, another team maysee him as a reclamation project or good #7 if we don't, but I think it would be a waste to get less than a 2nd for him.
 
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Raccoon Jesus said:
Re: Walker I think it would be silly to trade him at reduced value just to trade him. He's a versatile d-men who can play all situations and both sides, I think he gets the opportunity to at least show what he's got at camp, another team maysee him as a reclamation project or good #7 if we don't, but I think it would be a waste to get less than a 2nd for him.
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Pretty much what I was thinking. He is worth a 2nd+ if healthy and playing well. I have no problem even starting him on the roster next year and see where it goes, gain some value back and then pull the trigger on a trade. I also feel he would fit best as part of a bigger deal, so it might happen in the off season.
 
Mats26 said:
Pretty much what I was thinking. He is worth a 2nd+ if healthy and playing well. I have no problem even starting him on the roster next year and see where it goes, gain some value back and then pull the trigger on a trade. I also feel he would fit best as part of a bigger deal, so it might happen in the off season.
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Think you are overrating Walker....no team is trading 2nd rd pick for him. Agreed he would be interesting as part of bigger deal though. Vilardi Walker Roy probably does land a legit NHL player.
 
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regulate said:
Goals against update for the Kings defense. GA/60 or goals against per 60 minutes played at even strength. Lower is better. I choose 9 games played or more since Spence has played 9.
Moverare 1.2
Maatta 1.6
Roy 1.8
Spence 1.8
Edler 1.9
Bjornfot 2.3
Anderson 2.5
Doughty 2.8
Durzi 3.1
* Note Stecher is 0.0 in 3 games
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so we should trade Durzi and Drew...got it
 
YP44 said:
so we should trade Durzi and Drew...got it
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Well there's no arguing that Durzi does get scored on. A lot. He's in his own stratosphere when it comes to GA/60 at even strength. Doughty at least brings a lot of offense and GF/60 to make up for getting scored on so much.

I know a lot of posters love Durzi, but I'd be okay if he got traded. He and Walker are at the bottom in terms of GF% at even strength. The Kings have Doughty, Roy, Spence and maybe Clarke for next season. There's just not enough room for Durzi and Walker.
 
There was a nice article on Walker in the Athletic yesterday by Lisa Dillman and Scott Wheeler. It described him as a great skater and competitor with intangibles that distinguished him wherever he played. At Bowling Green the coach used alumni connections with Blake and Emerson to get the Kings to look at him when no other team would. Lots of complimentary statements from them and Stothers. Overall the article left me thinking that the question of what to do with him next season may be harder for management than I had appreciated.

Link: 'Give him a chance': Kings' Sean Walker, once overlooked, is built to overcome doubts — and a torn ACL
 
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lumbergh said:
Well there's no arguing that Durzi does get scored on. A lot. He's in his own stratosphere when it comes to GA/60 at even strength. Doughty at least brings a lot of offense and GF/60 to make up for getting scored on so much.

I know a lot of posters love Durzi, but I'd be okay if he got traded. He and Walker are at the bottom in terms of GF% at even strength. The Kings have Doughty, Roy, Spence and maybe Clarke for next season. There's just not enough room for Durzi and Walker.
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I would be ok with dealing Durzi only because I think it would be trading with an inflated value and because there is a log jam of RHD coming.
All depends on return.
 
Big minutes + strength of opponent = GA

Punishing Durzi for playing DOughty's minutes is one of the craziest things I've seen on this forum all year and that's saying something...wanting him traded at this point before other prospects have even shown a single thing? Absolute insanity, especially given the intangibles.
 
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It's as if so many just want Clarke/Faber and Spence in the line up next year. Current, competent NHLers on the team be damned. Waller/Roy/Durzi/Bjornfort/Anderson.....get the hell out of dodge.
 
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Raccoon Jesus said:
Big minutes + strength of opponent = GA

Punishing Durzi for playing DOughty's minutes is one of the craziest things I've seen on this forum all year and that's saying something...wanting him traded at this point before other prospects have even shown a single thing? Absolute insanity, especially given the intangibles.
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This is a board with Andys, Kurrilino, and Sol posting regularly and you pick on this as "one of the craziest things" you've seen and "Absolute insanity"? OK.

Durzi's GA/60 at even strength up until Doughty injury 3/7 (40 games): 3.0

That wasn't good even before Doughty went down. Basically the worst on D. He was bringing offense while playing bottom pairing, so... acceptable.

Durzi's GA/60 at even strength after Doughty injury (14 games): 4.1

Not only that, but his offense has completely dried up (GF/60 at ES of 1.1). Right now he's completely overwhelmed.

I'm not punishing Durzi for drowning in tough minutes. He was an okay bottom pairing 2nd PP specialist before Doughty went down. That doesn't scream untradeable core to me. Do I want him traded? No. He's fun to watch. I'm just okay with it if it happens. Spence is as good if not better. So is Walker when he recovers. There's not enough room for them all, so someone will have to go.
 
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