Rumor: Planning Ahead: 2019 Off-Season

[Mats26]

Kadri would look nice on the Kings as a vet 2nd line center with some snarl.

 

[RocketKing]

Why do you just want to trade away Defenseman, especially Clague who is considered a future regular player and PP QB just to move up 2 spots and take another Defenseman? You don't do anything to build up depth that way. Clague may not be Doughty but I don't see the logic in moving a guy who is close to making the team as an Offensive Dman which we really need since we don't score goals.

We can watch Cernak right now and think about trading away a Defenseman without seeing what type of upside he has. There is virtually zero chance that the Kings will be trading away any prospects at this stage. They want to move NHL bloated contracts and get leaner so they can see what guys like Clague can do.

We're collecting up allot of NHL caliber dmen (currently we have 8) they all cant play and if we can use one or 2 of them to get an Elite Dman who compares to a possible Pietrangelo or maybe another DD then we have to be open to that kind of deal. Clague's not ever going to be another DD but Byram might be in his class.

DD was a regular NHL player when he was 18, Clague is going to be 21 on June 5 and was passed over for call ups by 3 other players. If there is a possible move up to get Byram with our 5OA with Clague then I'd do it. Quantity isnt going to win us a Cup. If we can make 2 for 1 deals to get a legit star talent (top 3 in this draft) then we should try to make it happen.

 

[johnjm22]

I’m wondering if the Kings should look into a Kadri trade. Three more years at $4.5M. TOR needs to clear up cap space for MM. Kadri seems to have issues staying out of trouble in the playoffs, which LA won’t probably be involved with for the next couple of years.

Just a thought.

But why? Are we trying to win now? I thought we were rebuilding.

We have young centers we're trying to develop already.

If I was management I'd be shopping Amart with 50% retention to see what kind of picks/prospects I could get for him.

 

[YP44]

But why? Are we trying to win now? I thought we were rebuilding.

We have young centers we're trying to develop already.

If I was management I'd be shopping Amart with 50% retention to see what kind of picks/prospects I could get for him.

Depends on how long a rebuild you are looking at. Either way it is worth the phone call. If the price is low get him. He is a valuable asset to have and having as many valuable assets as possible should be the game right now.

 

[johnjm22]

I'm not sure what the rules are, but if possible I'd rather try and take Horton of their hands in exchange for a draft pick.

 

[YP44]

I'm not sure what the rules are, but if possible I'd rather try and take Horton of their hands in exchange for a draft pick.

we would have to send at least something back. Like a 7th round pick or something.

 

[kings11]

I think that Florida pick can be had...
realistically, what would it take for us to get that pick? The kids are out, so we 1- 2nd, 2-3rds, 2-4ths, plus Amart @50% retention, Toffoli @upto 50% and Quick @$1.5mill maybe more

 

[Jungle Boy]

I think that Florida pick can be had...
realistically, what would it take for us to get that pick? The kids are out, so we 1- 2nd, 2-3rds, 2-4ths, plus Amart @50% retention, Toffoli @upto 50% and Quick @$1.5mill maybe more

This is the type of trades the Kings should do. There is some pressure to win in Buffalo, Edmonton and Florida and we could make something out of it. Tofolli, AMart, Quick, Ladue, Forbort are players that could be traded with retention (excepect JQ) and if we get some bad contracts back (ie Russell, Scandela, Hutton) we could get another oxe or two first round pick.

 

[KingsFan7824]

I think that Florida pick can be had...
realistically, what would it take for us to get that pick? The kids are out, so we 1- 2nd, 2-3rds, 2-4ths, plus Amart @50% retention, Toffoli @upto 50% and Quick @$1.5mill maybe more

If Florida is going after Panarin and Bobrovsky, nothing there works. Get those two, and keep the 13th pick. Easy choice. They can get Martinez at 50% too, but it won't cost a 1st.

This is the type of trades the Kings should do. There is some pressure to win in Buffalo, Edmonton and Florida and we could make something out of it. Tofolli, AMart, Quick, Ladue, Forbort are players that could be traded with retention (excepect JQ) and if we get some bad contracts back (ie Russell, Scandela, Hutton) we could get another oxe or two first round pick.

Why does anyone want Forbort? Or LaDue? Those are not "I better make the playoffs with this trade" kind of guys.

Scandella isn't a bad contract. He's a UFA next year. Hutton is cheap, and why would the Kings want another 33 year old goalie back?

You want a bad contract? Get Okposo for Toffoli. Even then, it's not going to be the 7th this year. It'll be next year's 1st if anything. The Sabres aren't in much cap trouble.

 

[DoktorJeep]

100% there is a trade market for Forbort. He’s got to be worth a 3rd round pick at the TDL as a 2020 UFA. LaDue is harder because he hasn’t been gifted the minutes like Forbort. Phaneuf has also robbed LaDue of opportunity because he’s expensive and it makes Management look bad when he’s benched.

If LaDue started fighting, I bet the bush league Kings would make him a starter.

 

[GoldenBearHockey]

100% there is a trade market for Forbort. He’s got to be worth a 3rd round pick at the TDL as a 2020 UFA. LaDue is harder because he hasn’t been gifted the minutes like Forbort. Phaneuf has also robbed LaDue of opportunity because he’s expensive and it makes Management look bad when he’s benched.

If LaDue started fighting, I bet the bush league Kings would make him a starter.

Your hot takes are off the chart bud.......

 

[kings11]

If Florida is going after Panarin and Bobrovsky, nothing there works. Get those two, and keep the 13th pick. Easy choice. They can get Martinez at 50% too, but it won't cost a 1st.



Why does anyone want Forbort? Or LaDue? Those are not "I better make the playoffs with this trade" kind of guys.

Scandella isn't a bad contract. He's a UFA next year. Hutton is cheap, and why would the Kings want another 33 year old goalie back?

You want a bad contract? Get Okposo for Toffoli. Even then, it's not going to be the 7th this year. It'll be next year's 1st if anything. The Sabres aren't in much cap trouble.

That’s a big IF, as is the CBJ being a serious Cup contender after crushing TB... would they actually leave a team that’s on the cusp to join a team that isn’t likely to be a threat in the East anytime soon??
Quick would benefit many teams.. even the CBJ, but also Phi, Fl, Buf... not sure what the FO wants in return for our vets but there comes a time when selling short and clearing loads of cap space needs to become a priority.. Off topic I know, but I’d move these guys in order to move up in a really good and deep draft..

 

[YP44]

With Hart coming up last year I do not see Philly being in on Quick anymore.

Buffalo, Florida, Columbus, Carolina, Ottawa (crazy but they need a goalie) and Oilers should at least check in on him,

 

[kings11]

With Hart coming up last year I do not see Philly being in on Quick anymore.

Buffalo, Florida, Columbus, Carolina, Ottawa (crazy but they need a goalie) and Oilers should at least check in on him,

I’d love Pesce from Car... Quick($2mill)+Toffoli($2mill)+Was 3rd.. is that enough??? And we could then try and steal away Adam Fox

 

[YP44]

I’d love Pesce from Car... Quick($2mill)+Toffoli($2mill)+Was 3rd.. is that enough??? And we could then try and steal away Adam Fox

Not sure what is worse..Retaining $2M on Quick for 5 years or taking Darling back for 3. Almost would rather have Darling.

Darling + 1st + Fleury for Quick.

I don't think we can get Pesce but would love it. I also do not think anyone pays a first for Quick without LA taking a bad deal back in return. Even the deal above i think Carolina Scoffs at based on Quick's numbers this year.

 

[kings11]

Not sure what is worse..Retaining $2M on Quick for 5 years or taking Darling back for 3. Almost would rather have Darling.

Darling + 1st + Fleury for Quick.

I don't think we can get Pesce but would love it. I also do not think anyone pays a first for Quick without LA taking a bad deal back in return. Even the deal above i think Carolina Scoffs at based on Quick's numbers this year.

Only way we move Quick is if we retain that much and expect any type of return..
Best chance we have is to hope Quick, Carter, Toffoli and even Amart have decent bounce back season so they can be moved but then again that likely means we'd be playoff contenders and the FO would be fooled into thinking we can contend...

 

[KingsFan7824]

That’s a big IF, as is the CBJ being a serious Cup contender after crushing TB... would they actually leave a team that’s on the cusp to join a team that isn’t likely to be a threat in the East anytime soon??

It certainly sounds as though Panarin and Bobrovsky have made up their minds already. Nothing that happens in the next few weeks will probably make them want to be in Columbus for the next 8 years.

Quick would benefit many teams.. even the CBJ, but also Phi, Fl, Buf... not sure what the FO wants in return for our vets but there comes a time when selling short and clearing loads of cap space needs to become a priority.. Off topic I know, but I’d move these guys in order to move up in a really good and deep draft..

Anyone would love to move them to move up. The problem is you're not moving up with what you want to see traded. You can't trade the old guys, the UFA's, and the scraps. You have to come to the table with actual talent.

I’d love Pesce from Car... Quick($2mill)+Toffoli($2mill)+Was 3rd.. is that enough??? And we could then try and steal away Adam Fox

Like this. That's not even close to enough for a 24/25 year old top 3/4 RHD that is signed until 2024 at a $4m hit. Carolina seems to be ok without a 33 year old goalie, and a slow winger. If you want him, you would have to trade someone at least as young as he is, if not younger. It would probably have to include a young C, or another quality young D, who are either cheaper, or signed as long.

It would take the 5th pick, or Kupari(depending on how good he is), Toronto's 1st would probably have to be thrown in somewhere, something like that.

 

[Reaper45]

LaDue's biggest issue to me is that he still just gets outworked and out muscled in the d zone. He's got nice offense and has a bit of willingness to get into scrums but he doesnt cut it on D.

 

[deeshamrock]

With Hart coming up last year I do not see Philly being in on Quick anymore.

Buffalo, Florida, Columbus, Carolina, Ottawa (crazy but they need a goalie) and Oilers should at least check in on him,

Philly was never in on Quick, that was media driven.

Bob is headed to FLa, don't see the Canes as a fit, they'll want somebody younger. Jackets perhaps.

 

[kings11]

It certainly sounds as though Panarin and Bobrovsky have made up their minds already. Nothing that happens in the next few weeks will probably make them want to be in Columbus for the next 8 years.



Anyone would love to move them to move up. The problem is you're not moving up with what you want to see traded. You can't trade the old guys, the UFA's, and the scraps. You have to come to the table with actual talent.



Like this. That's not even close to enough for a 24/25 year old top 3/4 RHD that is signed until 2024 at a $4m hit. Carolina seems to be ok without a 33 year old goalie, and a slow winger. If you want him, you would have to trade someone at least as young as he is, if not younger. It would probably have to include a young C, or another quality young D, who are either cheaper, or signed as long.

It would take the 5th pick, or Kupari(depending on how good he is), Toronto's 1st would probably have to be thrown in somewhere, something like that.

Guess we better hope Vilardi's back heals and can carry an unjustifiable load...

 

[deeshamrock]

Kadri would look nice on the Kings as a vet 2nd line center with some snarl.

Kadri will get moved and will be a solid 2C, good 2 way C, with some attitude and would fit well on Kings. He won't be the only Leaf moving. I can't see them affording Marner, not for the 11-12 he wants. ANd then there's Kapanen...

 

[KINGS17]

That’s a big IF, as is the CBJ being a serious Cup contender after crushing TB... would they actually leave a team that’s on the cusp to join a team that isn’t likely to be a threat in the East anytime soon??

Ummmm, Miami...Columbus, uh Miami...Columbus...

When my daughter went off to college she had partial scholarship offers from two schools. One was Marquette University in Milwaukee, WI, and the other was at the University of San Diego. Bet you can guess which one she chose.

 

[deeshamrock]

While I like Kadri, he only had 16 goals for the season and averages 16 minutes a game. I would like to see a higher level offensive player that can actually mentor our youth.

Nazem Kadri Stats | Hockey-Reference.com


Dump VV rights for anything really in package deal with Quick, we're going to lose a goalie in the Seattle draft so best Quick be on his way and then stock up.

That's because they dropped him to the 3rd line . The prior 2 years, he was in the top 6 and netted 32 goals each yr. He'll be in the top 6 next year on another team and be a producer again.

 

[KingsFan7824]

Guess we better hope Vilardi's back heals and can carry an unjustifiable load...

Basically. Unless someone comes along and surprises people. Pretty much what happened with Hickey and Muzzin. And they certainly can't waste the pick this year. They have to get a player. Doesn't have to be the best in the draft, but he has to be a top contributor on the team. Especially if Vilardi is a bust.

 

[Mats26]

I like the thought of a Turcotte Kadri Kupari 2nd line for less than 6.5 million in cap space over the next few years.