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Mats26 said:
Can't believe what I read on these boards sometimes.

Iafallo's points and goals went up from last season on the worse offensive team in the league. 25 and will be getting better as the team gets more talent. I expect a cheap 3 year deal from the Kings.
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Its not that he isnt a good player but rather a player that was a free asset via UDFA and can be sacrificed to get more assets.. Cal Petersen, Sheldon Rempal, Daniel Brickley all fall under that premise
 
kings11 said:
Its not that he isnt a good player but rather a player that was a free asset via UDFA and can be sacrificed to get more assets.. Cal Petersen, Sheldon Rempal, Daniel Brickley all fall under that premise
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So was Martin St. Louis.....gotta love what happened there...

Not saying anyone in that group is comparable, but to illustrate the point, just because someone was a free asset, doesn't mean they are expendable....
 
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kings11 said:
Its not that he isnt a good player but rather a player that was a free asset via UDFA and can be sacrificed to get more assets.. Cal Petersen, Sheldon Rempal, Daniel Brickley all fall under that premise
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Cal is projected to be our number 1 in a few years. Let's trade them before they get a real shot?
We should of traded Muzzin after his first year because we got him for free?

Iafallo doesn't have value yet. You get at best a 3rd round pick for him that may be a bust. Or add him to get out of a contract from Quick or Carter?
Wait until you get some talent on the team and then maximize his return if he doesn't fit in the long term plans.

We are not trading any 25 or younger players with talent.
 
Mats26 said:
Cal is projected to be our number 1 in a few years. Let's trade them before they get a real shot?
We should of traded Muzzin after his first year because we got him for free?

Iafallo doesn't have value yet. You get at best a 3rd round pick for him that may be a bust. Or add him to get out of a contract from Quick or Carter?
Wait until you get some talent on the team and then maximize his return if he doesn't fit in the long term plans.

We are not trading any 25 or younger players with talent.
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Not really worried about Cal especially with how good Jack has looked... the Kings churn out Goalies with frequency...
as for Muzzin, wtf does he have to do with the conversation other than being a UFA??? He is better than anyone’s I mentioned and it’s not even close... and like Jack and former 1st... and yes we still flipped a free asset for some goodies.. I am perfectly fine with any tandem of Quick, Campbell Petersen.. and I personally ranked them from a talent perspective... yes Quick is still a better Goalie than both!

Iafallo is a bottom 6 guy that’s been given the opportunity to play top line minutes and has produced to his talents.. No problem there but if you could package him with an undesirable asset to move it or attach him along with a pick to move up a couple spots to get someone you really like then you do it... period, end of f***en story!
Can’t believe some of you are actually up in arms over Alex f***en Iafallo!
 
DoktorJeep said:
No.

Because it doesn’t matter who rides shotgun with Matthews and Nylander. Problem is the Kings have no one like those two anymore. It’s not on Iafallo that Kopitar and Brown have regressed and need better talent around them to make their contracts a good value.
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So kopitar is inferior to nylander ? Lol terrible take
 
kings11 said:
Its not that he isnt a good player but rather a player that was a free asset via UDFA and can be sacrificed to get more assets.. Cal Petersen, Sheldon Rempal, Daniel Brickley all fall under that premise
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The fact whether they were "free" or not should not enter into the equation. Neither should draft pedigree. That's sunk cost fallacy. Expected performance and expected cost over time going forward is what we should be looking at.
 
Choralone said:
The fact whether they were "free" or not should not enter into the equation. Neither should draft pedigree. That's sunk cost fallacy. Expected performance and expected cost over time going forward is what we should be looking at.
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Well in that case, his lack of production or better said his 3rd/4th line production on our top line makes him available! you'd be mistaken if you think Amadio, Wagner, Luff and Grundstrom aren't already more productive and quite honestly better than Iafallo.
Now if you would have read my previous posts i've been saying that Toffoli and Martinez the guys that need to be moved at the draft and Phaneuf bought out.. Iafallo to me could be on a 3rd line with Kempe/Grundstrom or Centering Wagner and Luff/Lewis.. but if Podzolkin begins too fall and I cant get away with pacjaking teh TMl pick, #33 and Iafallo to drop the needed spots then i do it..
 
kings11 said:
Well in that case, his lack of production or better said his 3rd/4th line production on our top line makes him available! you'd be mistaken if you think Amadio, Wagner, Luff and Grundstrom aren't already more productive and quite honestly better than Iafallo.
Now if you would have read my previous posts i've been saying that Toffoli and Martinez the guys that need to be moved at the draft and Phaneuf bought out.. Iafallo to me could be on a 3rd line with Kempe/Grundstrom or Centering Wagner and Luff/Lewis.. but if Podzolkin begins too fall and I cant get away with pacjaking teh TMl pick, #33 and Iafallo to drop the needed spots then i do it..
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You think Grundstrom is more productive than Iafallo? That's an interesting take on it.....same with Amadio,

Wagner you could argue, Luff you could argue both as possibly's.....but if you are going off of production based....Grundstrom might make the 4thline
 
kings11 said:
Not really worried about Cal especially with how good Jack has looked... the Kings churn out Goalies with frequency...
as for Muzzin, wtf does he have to do with the conversation other than being a UFA??? He is better than anyone’s I mentioned and it’s not even close... and like Jack and former 1st... and yes we still flipped a free asset for some goodies.. I am perfectly fine with any tandem of Quick, Campbell Petersen.. and I personally ranked them from a talent perspective... yes Quick is still a better Goalie than both!

Iafallo is a bottom 6 guy that’s been given the opportunity to play top line minutes and has produced to his talents.. No problem there but if you could package him with an undesirable asset to move it or attach him along with a pick to move up a couple spots to get someone you really like then you do it... period, end of ****en story!
Can’t believe some of you are actually up in arms over Alex ****en Iafallo!
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Again, I can't believe what I read on these boards sometimes.

Jake Muzzin was also a free asset. We should of traded him 10 years ago before he developed because we got him for nothing? We waited until he developed and maximized his return. We should do the same with all assets regardless if the are "free" or draft picked.
 
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GoldenBearHockey said:
You think Grundstrom is more productive than Iafallo? That's an interesting take on it.....same with Amadio,

Wagner you could argue, Luff you could argue both as possibly's.....but if you are going off of production based....Grundstrom might make the 4thline
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You got to be kidding if you dont see Amadio as the better player especially when considering how WD mismanaged him .. eh this whole team..
I threw in Grundstrom simply because teh belief seem sto be that hes proven himself in teh AHL and has all but locked up a spot.. I'd send him down if no one is moved from our forward corps but thats just me.. Iafallo is a 3rd/4th line guy but I/ME personally feel the kids are much better and when given the time much more productive.. keep inmind Iafallo's minutes, his linemates and his production withteh opportunities he's had. That's pretty much all i'm saying
 
kings11 said:
You got to be kidding if you dont see Amadio as the better player especially when considering how WD mismanaged him .. eh this whole team..
I threw in Grundstrom simply because teh belief seem sto be that hes proven himself in teh AHL and has all but locked up a spot.. I'd send him down if no one is moved from our forward corps but thats just me.. Iafallo is a 3rd/4th line guy but I/ME personally feel the kids are much better and when given the time much more productive.. keep inmind Iafallo's minutes, his linemates and his production withteh opportunities he's had. That's pretty much all i'm saying
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Amadio had a good stretch of games....that's about it....
 
Mats26 said:
Again, I can't believe what I read on these boards sometimes.

Jake Muzzin was also a free asset. We should of traded him 10 years ago before he developed because we got him for nothing? We waited until he developed and maximized his return. We should do the same with all assets regardless if the are "free" or draft picked.
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Alex Ifallo is no Jake Muzzin and what someone like yourself obviously dont seem to see is that he's played on the top line the last two seasons and maxed out at 33pts. You put Wagner in that role and im betting my paycheck he at least pots 25 goals, yet your crying over a guy thats pretty f***en irrelevant buddy..
Alex Iafallo is a good bottom 6 platyer.. guess what, we have about 20 of those
 
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LMAO holy crap this board is remarkable,

As RJ says, it's a new shiny piece syndrome tapped with a what have you done for me lately.....
 
GoldenBearHockey said:
Amadio had a good stretch of games....that's about it....
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He also has more talent, is a better playmaker, has a better shot, is better defensively, and elevates his play with better linemates... or did you not see what happened when Wags-Amadio-Luff were together those first few games?? and it wasnt a fluke becuase he did the same thing Kovy was on his line.. the kid is a player who at worse is a 3C ... Given real minutes he answers our 3C problem
 
Mats26 said:
Again, I can't believe what I read on these boards sometimes.

Jake Muzzin was also a free asset. We should of traded him 10 years ago before he developed because we got him for nothing? We waited until he developed and maximized his return. We should do the same with all assets regardless if the are "free" or draft picked.
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Muzzin and Iafallo is not a valid comparison. At age 24 Jake Muzzin was Drew Doughty's partner on a Stanley Cup championship team. Iafallo isn't even close.
 
kings11 said:
He also has more talent, is a better playmaker, has a better shot, is better defensively, and elevates his play with better linemates... or did you not see what happened when Wags-Amadio-Luff were together those first few games?? and it wasnt a fluke becuase he did the same thing Kovy was on his line.. the kid is a player who at worse is a 3C ... Given real minutes he answers our 3C problem
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LOL I think recency bias clearly bit you somewhere....might wanna reign in those expectations for Amadio
 
Not sure why there is an argument here, will be plenty of time next year to see who earns a spot, it's not like the team is going to be competing for anything other than another top 5 pick anyhow.
 
kings11 said:
given his consistency at every level Junior, AHL, and snippets in the NHL , i'll stick to my guns and I guess we'll just have to see next season
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13 points in 43 games, isn't consistent..... BTW, I don't disagree with you, I think he can make a good 3rd line C, but he has to show more than what he has.....his last 5 games were good, but we don't know if that's the real Amadio, or the first 38 games were
 
KINGS17 said:
Is it? If might have been last season, but Nylander's upside is much higher than Kopitar's.
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So is Connor Brown's for that matter....upside only means anything if achieve anything.

Kopitar's upside is a helluva lot more than Gretzky's right now.....
 
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