GWT: PL Matchweek 3

[Blender]

They didn't determine it was deliberate. Read the rule again. It doesn't matter if it's deliberate. He's supposed to be sent off anyway.

It does matter if it's deliberate. Did you just ignore the handball rules? They either called that deliberate or considered his position unnatural. Considering his leg was raised to play the ball unnatural would be a ridiculous call, so they clearly called it deliberate.

• deliberately touches the ball with their hand/arm, for example moving the hand/arm towards the ball
• touches the ball with their hand/arm when it has made their body unnaturally bigger. A player is considered to have made their body unnaturally bigger when the position of their hand/arm is not a consequence of, or justifiable by, the player’s body movement for that specific situation. By having their hand/arm in such a position, the player takes a risk of their hand/arm being hit by the ball and being penalised

 

[Wee Baby Seamus]

Okay boys, let's clean this up.

 

[NyQuil]

Havertz and Kante out of the match after superb first halves.

 

[Jersey Fresh]

"his right arm moves towards the ball" .....

Buddy, it hits his thigh clearly, what did he manage to get his arm up and react in a millisecond to then get an intentional touch on it?

Don't understand the confusion. If hits his thigh, into his arm, which then propels forward. Could have been reflexive more than intentional, and I'm not totally convinced it should be a red, but it definitely happened.

 

[Blender]

Don't understand the confusion. If hits his thigh, into his arm, which then propels forward. Could have been reflexive more than intentional, and I'm not totally convinced it should be a red, but it definitely happened.

At full speed and from the front angle it looks like he's trying to chest it after it bounces off his thigh. The slow motion side angle makes it look much worse than it was.

 

[Live in the Now]

It does matter if it's deliberate. Did you just ignore the handball rules? They either called that deliberate or considered his position unnatural. Considering his leg was raised to play the ball unnatural would be a ridiculous call, so they clearly called it deliberate.

Are we arguing now that he didn't use his arms to make his body bigger?

 

[Juve]

I am still not convinced that's a red. If the ball hits your leg then hits your arm, what exactly are you supposed to do differently?

 

[Wee Baby Seamus]

Matip yet again is a whiny baby

 

[Savant]

I mean that was a foul Alonso on Trent

 

[Live in the Now]

I am still not convinced that's a red. If the ball hits your leg then hits your arm, what exactly are you supposed to do differently?

You're not supposed to have your arm completely outstretched.

 

[Savant]

Matip yet again is a whiny baby

That’s just what he does. He has a whole Twitter account dedicated to him. No Context Joel Matip. Check it out when you are in a better mood. It’s pretty funny.

 

[Wee Baby Seamus]

Impressed that Taylor called that!

Angry Rudiger is beast mode Rudiger

 

[Live in the Now]

The angle they just showed from behind the goal is so obvious that he did it deliberately.

 

[hatterson]

I mean that was a foul Alonso on Trent

The fact that you still can complain about officiating after that first half is absolutely incredible.

 

[Savant]

You're not supposed to have your arm completely outstretched.

If you intentionally make yourself bigger, if the ball hits what’s making you bigger it’s probably intentional

 

[Wee Baby Seamus]

That’s just what he does. He has a whole Twitter account dedicated to him. No Context Joel Matip. Check it out when you are in a better mood. It’s pretty funny.

Cheers, I'll check it. I don't watch Liverpool enough to have noticed before I guess.

 

[Savant]

The fact that you still can complain about officiating after that first half is absolutely incredible.

I’ve said several times he is having a bad game for both teams. I stand by it.

 

[NyQuil]

The angle they just showed from behind the goal is so obvious that he did it deliberately.

I’m watching the same angle.

His hand moves after it contacts the ball, not before.

 

[Live in the Now]

I’m watching the same angle.

His hand moves after it contacts the ball, not before.

Yeah, he scoops the ball away from the goal.

 

[Blender]

Are we arguing now that he didn't use his arms to make his body bigger?

You left out the word "unnaturally", I assume on purpose.

This is his body position when the shot is taken:

This is his body position right after the ball comes off his thigh:

This is when his arm hits it after coming off his chest and thigh:

None of those are unnatural positions, so the only argument here is that this was a deliberate handball.

 

[Peen]

Rather see chalobah instead of Jorginho or Werner instead of Lukaku to just run and pray idk

 

[Wee Baby Seamus]

Yeah, he scoops the ball away from the goal.

Tell me, was this another replay in hyper slow-mo?

 

[ItsFineImFine]

They didn't determine it was deliberate. Read the rule again. It doesn't matter if it's deliberate. He's supposed to be sent off anyway.

Nope, the rule is if it goes off the player to his hand it's not a red. Which it did.

 

[Jersey Fresh]

I’m watching the same angle.

His hand moves after it contacts the ball, not before.

Which is kind of the point. The ball wasn't moving at pace. If he does nothing the ball just plops on the goal line versus moving a yard forward.

 

[Wee Baby Seamus]

Child tries to foul murderer, child loses