Pittsburgh Sports Media Gibberish: Bombulie ‎to restore order @ the Trib

[Shady Machine]

Despres was 2010 draft. Saad 2011. It was Joe Morrow we picked ahead of him. also picked Morrow ahead of Rattie, Jurco, Jensen, Namastikov, Boone Jenner, Brett Ritchie and John Gibson.

sigh.

Despres was 2009. Bennett 2010. Morrow 2011

 

[MtlPenFan]

Now he is saying it was a bad trade (clearly not his opinion when the deal was made, contrary to what he's insisting), but that Despres isn't some "hockey overlord", as if anyone has ever said or implied that.

Funny thing is, that "overlord" comment was the result of every news outlet simply saying the kid's a decent player with a lot of potential and that it was a bad move. The WORST thing said when you add up all the articles and talking points from analysts and Ducks' teammates is that Despres is simply better than Lovejoy.

Knowing human nature, and having to deal with guys like DK at work and knowing how they function, it must have driven him nuts reading and listening to all that.

I've honestly lost a ton of respect for the guy. Again, not even about Despres The Hockey Player, but the way he's handled himself with criticism of the trade. All he's done is put words in people's mouths because he doesn't have anything else to respond with.

 

[SEALBound]

Now he is saying it was a bad trade (clearly not his opinion when the deal was made, contrary to what he's insisting), but that Despres isn't some "hockey overlord", as if anyone has ever said or implied that.

Why does he think it's a good idea to keep pressing the issue? Seriously...of what benefit is there to him? It's just like Lance Armstrong maintaining that he didn't dope. After a point, he continues to irreparably damage his credibility...and for what? To defend Ben Lovejoy? Seriously? At some point he needs to cut his losses.

 

[Dipsy Doodle]

Funny thing is, that "overlord" comment was the result of every news outlet simply saying the kid's a decent player with a lot of potential and that it was a bad move. The WORST thing said when you add up all the articles and talking points from analysts and Ducks' teammates is that Despres is simply better than Lovejoy.

Knowing human nature, and having to deal with guys like DK at work and knowing how they function, it must have driven him nuts reading and listening to all that.

I've honestly lost a ton of respect for the guy. Again, not even about Despres The Hockey Player, but the way he's handled himself with criticism of the trade. All he's done is put words in people's mouths because he doesn't have anything else to respond with.

To be honest, I never really got the fascination with DK here.

I hear he was good before he switched beats, but since my only exposure to him has been since he switched back to hockey, he always struck me as someone who didn't process or evaluate the game very well, regardless of his abilities as a journalist.

This latest farce is just par for the course AFAIC. I had no respect to lose for him, but now that he's an entrepreneur looking for click-bait with editorials, I guess he can indulge his most infantile tendencies.

 

[cassius]

DK is of the same ilk of Kim Kardashian.

Vapid and attention seeking.. all in a quest for revenue. He is what he is. Can't knock his hustle - he's managed to get a rabid fanbase of yinzers, who are probably making $40K/year, to pay him. That's impressive.

 

[xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]

He's not Bobby Orr, guys. Get over it.

****ing idiots. And people actually PAY to read DK's biased, nonsense, agenda-driven opinion. Good lord.

 

[theicebox]

I feel bad for Dejan. His societal contribution is essentially being an hfboards poster with a microphone.

 

[plaidchuck]

To be honest, I never really got the fascination with DK here.

I hear he was good before he switched beats, but since my only exposure to him has been since he switched back to hockey, he always struck me as someone who didn't process or evaluate the game very well, regardless of his abilities as a journalist.

This latest farce is just par for the course AFAIC. I had no respect to lose for him, but now that he's an entrepreneur looking for click-bait with editorials, I guess he can indulge his most infantile tendencies.

To me it seems he got super smug after getting the mario and burkle interview. So now I'm sure he thinks he hob nobs and is buddy buddy with billionaires.

 

[Al Smith]

I feel bad for Dejan. His societal contribution is essentially being an hfboards poster with a microphone.

I agree. I've been thinking he seems to have willingly lowered himself from a semi-respected journalist with some decent insight to the emotional equivalent of the least knowledgeable, yet most prolific, HF posters.

 

[penguins2946*]

DK blocked me on Twitter because I called his straw men Despres tweets (comparing Despres to Orr, saying Despres isn't a hockey overlord) and his replies petty and immature. What a clown.

 

[Jacob]

He seems to be less about actual journalism and more about personal branding. If you compare how he acts when he's a guest on Madden vs. how he spoke when he was on the Nightly Sports Call years back, it's like night and day. He's trying to be a Madden/Benz type of personality now. It seems forced, and his work suffers. But he's probably making way more money so I don't blame him.

 

[td_ice]

He seems to be less about actual journalism and more about personal branding. If you compare how he acts when he's a guest on Madden vs. how he spoke when he was on the Nightly Sports Call years back, it's like night and day. He's trying to be a Madden/Benz type of personality now. It seems forced, and his work suffers. But he's probably making way more money so I don't blame him.

Yeah, that's probably true.


Probably seeing Madden's success. And for those that don't get that Madden is basically all shtick, this is what he said the other day.

"I learned a lot from Jim Rome early in my career. I learned you have to be polarizing. You have to hate me or love me. Doesn't matter. As long as you are listening".


Sounds like DK is going that route.

 

[MtlPenFan]

Check his timeline. He's tweeting Despres stuff from the ball park. Lol he's completely lost it.

 

[Dipsy Doodle]

Check his timeline. He's tweeting Despres stuff from the ball park. Lol he's completely lost it.

The backpedaling on his initial reaction to the Despres trade is something to behold. Now he's saying that at the time he understood why the trade was made but was waiting to see how the return worked for the coaches.

Bald-faced liar.

As if it isn't easy enough to look back at disparaging tweets about Despres and pumping Lovejoy's tires at his expense. That's withholding judgement? Or his idiotic take about Lovejoy being a speed and skill upgrade?

 

[Beauner]

I snooped and looked at his first article after the trade. He said something along the lines of, "I'll go ahead and support both trades!" After giving some pro/con type stuff.

He tweeted a few days ago, "You think I LIKE that trade?". Well, DK....yeah. I do.

 

[td_ice]

Every time the Rangers score a goal from here on out in the playoffs, someone should shop a photo of Lovejoy added on the ice, and send it to DK....haha. It was such a familiar scene in our series.

 

[Dipsy Doodle]

I snooped and looked at his first article after the trade. He said something along the lines of, "I'll go ahead and support both trades!" After giving some pro/con type stuff.

He tweeted a few days ago, "You think I LIKE that trade?". Well, DK....yeah. I do.

Here it is, cached and available for all to see, but I'll quote for posterity:

http://webcache.googleusercontent.c...-strength-not-size/+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=ca

Let’s start with the most cynical summation possible for Jim Rutherford’s performance at the NHL trade deadline today: The Penguins, a well-below-average physical team, traded away their top two hitters, Simon Despres and Robert Bortuzzo, for two other defensemen, Ben Lovejoy and Ian Cole, who skate more swiftly and make prettier plays.

Sound about right?

Well, sure, it sounds so right that it probably isn’t cynical at all.

ORLY?

In fact, I’ll go further and support both trades, cumulatively and in the context of what they could mean for the Penguins moving into the 2015 Stanley Cup playoffs, though not at all based on Rutherford’s reasoning related to experience.

That's withholding judgement, you revisionist goof?

So cut off that aspect of the debate right there. Because this is Johnston’s team. It’s being coached in Johnston’s system that promotes speed, skill and skating in a pack. And no rational hockey mind could weigh the moves Rutherford made today and not see that the Penguins are now superior in that context that Winnik described than they were yesterday.

The rational minds were the ones who knew right away what a giant pile of horse **** that was. You were the one who lapped it up like manna from heaven, Kovacevic.

Rationalizing those trades by suggesting we got a speed, skill, and skating upgrade is indefensible. That applies to Bort, but it sure as hell doesn't to Despres. And considering Bort was a healthy scratch most nights anyway, I fail to see how it was a net gain in that department.

DK mischaracterized the moves as beef and inconsistent potential for speed and skill, which shows exactly how reliable a talent evaluator he is.

 

[plaidchuck]

The trade was so bizarre value wise and unnecessary that I've had to tell myself that despres must have done something inexcusable locker room wise(slept with someones gf/wife or did hardcore drugs). I really just want the straight answer, I'd at least respect them if they gave that. It's just insane a staff with so many years experience with the nhl would make that deal believing they were getting a talent upgrade.

 

[Pens1566]

DK has turned this into more of a story about him (shocker) and less about the actual trade. Guy is delusional in his revisionist history and blatant strawman arguments. Someone that still follows him or isn't blocked by him should tweet him a link to this thread.

 

[xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]

DK's just like all the other schmucks in the Pittsburgh sports media. "I'm smarter than you because someone is willing to pay me for my idiotic opinion. I'm never wrong." They all make things about themselves, they all hold petulant grudges against players, they all write agenda-driven "articles," and they will say/do whatever it takes to remain relevant--including flip flopping opinions on a near daily basis to hold the attention of your average idiot yinzer who holds their word as gospel.

 

[MtlPenFan]

DK's just like all the other schmucks in the Pittsburgh sports media. "I'm smarter than you because someone is willing to pay me for my idiotic opinion. I'm never wrong." They all make things about themselves, they all hold petulant grudges against players, they all write agenda-driven "articles," and they will say/do whatever it takes to remain relevant--including flip flopping opinions on a near daily basis to hold the attention of your average idiot yinzer who holds their word as gospel.

Yup, now he's tweeting about whether or not Despres will go into the HOF in a Pens or Ducks sweater.

Man's pretty easy to figure out though, which makes this all the more amusing. As I've said several times, most hockey fans in Pittsburgh are of the "casual" variety (no offense to any lurkers who frequent this place) and they agree with him because they're simply followers who can't formulate their own opinions because they don't understand the game.

As a result, he'll tweet some random remark then bathe in the glory of his followers tweeting out "Haha way to go DK." as if it's some form of validation. It's pretty funny.

 

[MtlPenFan]

Here it is, cached and available for all to see, but I'll quote for posterity:

http://webcache.googleusercontent.c...-strength-not-size/+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=ca



ORLY?



That's withholding judgement, you revisionist goof?



The rational minds were the ones who knew right away what a giant pile of horse **** that was. You were the one who lapped it up like manna from heaven, Kovacevic.

Rationalizing those trades by suggesting we got a speed, skill, and skating upgrade is indefensible. That applies to Bort, but it sure as hell doesn't to Despres. And considering Bort was a healthy scratch most nights anyway, I fail to see how it was a net gain in that department.

DK mischaracterized the moves as beef and inconsistent potential for speed and skill, which shows exactly how reliable a talent evaluator he is.

Hey RRP, how's THIS for withholding judgment

 

[DegenX]

Maybe the thing with DK is as much about clicks as it is his ego. Perhaps the best thing to do at this point is just ignore him. Lump him with Rossi and move on. In fact, he'll be even easier to ignore than Rossi, since he (DK) is no longer part of the Pittsburgh mainstream media.

 

[plaidchuck]

Not a surprise really. The penguins built their brand on student rush age fans and the bandwagoners that arrived after Crosby. Now that the pirates are relevant again they have to hold on to whatever fans they've got. The average yinzer really doesn't care about the pens unless they're winning cups.

Also, since it's a small market area that lives under the rust belt stereotype, yinzers need their players to be likeable. That's why a guy like dupuis is so well liked, an undrafted player who made it to being a linemate of one of the top players in the league? That's a yinzer wet dream. Lovejoy sucks but he does a good interview and says how much he loves the city and that his.kids will.grow up in it blah blah blah. Hence the causal fans coming to his defense.

Also why guys like neal get run out of town and whyv everyone criticizes malkin when hew slumping and not Crosby.

 

[Dipsy Doodle]

Hey RRP, how's THIS for withholding judgment

Yep. Does DK not realize that tweets and articles he wrote can be referenced at a later date? He seems to think that the multiple times he went on record praising the trade (with stupid justifications, no less) just disappeared into the ether.

People have memories and search engines exist, man. What a clown.