Pittsburgh Sports Media Gibberish: Bombulie to restore order @ the Trib
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vodeni
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That guy is the worst, and that's saying a lot considering who is to compare to,
vodeni
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You start first.
No one would have led the Penguins past the Rangers but Lovejoy did lead the Rangers past the Penguins.
IcedCapp
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It's also an INCREDIBLY stupid philosophy.
The Penguins have Crosby, is he single-handedly leading the Penguins past the Rangers?
I guess not. So trading him is inconsequential, right?
Trading Malkin, too, I suppose.
The truth is, there are no players in the NHL (and there never has/have been) who can beat a good team by themselves over the course of a best-of-seven series.
Of course, the only people who have brought that strawmen in are the people who are trolling over the Despres trade.
I call it trolling because I refuse to believe anyone with a triple digit IQ can actually believe some of the stuff that's being spouted on the trade.
Now, if we understand that no player can win a series, or, of course, a Cup, by themselves, then we move on to what matters: acquiring as many good pieces as possible. As many pieces that can contribute to 16 wins in a single post season as possible.
Who is better suited to helping a team win in the post season? Ben Lovejoy or Simon Despres?
The Penguins said Ben Lovejoy. The Ducks said Simon Despres. Regardless of what happens the rest of the way, the Ducks have been proven right.
And for anyone who wants to say "loloollol injuries!"
sit the **** down.
Injuries are part of hockey, plebs. Who is better suited to step up and play more minutes in the face of injuries? Certainly not Mr. "I CAN'T PLAY THIS MANY MINUTES, GET BILLY THE SQUID ON LINE ONE.'
Penguinzilla and Gordie and Dejan Kovacevic, et al are trolling you. You are never going to get them to see your side of the argument, because they aren't interested in your side of the argument. The sooner you ignore them, like herpes, the sooner they'll go away. I think.
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MOD NOTICE:
Guys be smarter than that. Don't feed trolls, report them. He's been darthed, now let's move on.
ALSO: KEEP ON TOPIC. This is a media-related thread, not a trade debate thread.
Guys be smarter than that. Don't feed trolls, report them. He's been darthed, now let's move on.
ALSO: KEEP ON TOPIC. This is a media-related thread, not a trade debate thread.
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plaidchuck
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A different opinion from the popular one is trolling? Yikes.. come on Darth you're better than that.. I hate the trade as much as anyone else but yall are gonna chafe from too much circlejerking.
Waffle Fries
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plaidchuck
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You honestly believe that gordie was just offering a different opinion?
Again, another example. If you question the hive mind, you get the screws put to you on hf. Any good forum carefully considers different opinions, not just allows a few "rockstar" posters (you know who these are) to say whatever they want whenever they want.
It's not a surprise though, this boards rep of.agenda and bias driven mods is pretty legendary on the sports media blogosphere.
Waffle Fries
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While you might be somewhat correct generally speaking, in this instance you are wayyy off base. The particular poster in question is trying to get a reaction out of people and only trying to get a reaction out of people. There was no intent of having a legitimate discussion.This isn't the first time, and it won't be the last. That's his schtick.
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I have little doubt Gordie genuinely doesn't think Despres is anything to write home about, but I read the posts in question and he was just trying to have a little fun with people would be my guess.
Is that trolling? Probably.
I disagree with a lot of things that are orthodoxy, but the only thing I can recall ever being deleted on this particular board was something I said about ownership being irate with Paul Martin several years ago (during the Flyers series) that I couldn't source and probably came close to a violation of the libel rules without one.
I wasn't lying, but I don't really have any objections that it's gone after the fact.
Is that trolling? Probably.
I disagree with a lot of things that are orthodoxy, but the only thing I can recall ever being deleted on this particular board was something I said about ownership being irate with Paul Martin several years ago (during the Flyers series) that I couldn't source and probably came close to a violation of the libel rules without one.
I wasn't lying, but I don't really have any objections that it's gone after the fact.
Zen Arcade
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It's funny because I remember Gordie arguing with me and saying Despres was a natural power play quarterback a couple years ago.
Maybe he's not trolling, maybe he's just really bad at assessing players.
Maybe he's not trolling, maybe he's just really bad at assessing players.
BrunoPuntzJones
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If only he were on Twitter and targeting Pittsburgh media personalities with Correct Thought and the same tactics, he could be a hero here.
IcedCapp
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I may be older but I'm never forgetting #47 & #41
Didn't see this posted anywhere, but Madden was openly pining to bring back Gonchar this offseason, and shouted anyone down who brought up he was too old and not worth taking up a roster spot over one of the younger players.
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Madden's an idiot. He was also saying Sheary might be the next Tyler Johnson.
Asuna
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That's exceptionally optimistic. Sheary is only 2 years younger than Johnson and Johnson dominated the AHL since his rookie season.
Asuna
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I find that there's a big difference between saying Sheary could be the next Tyler Johnson, and that he would be the next Tyler Johnson.
Could Sheary be the next Johnson? Sure, he could. Nothing wrong with saying that.
Will Sheary be the next Johnson? Odds are highly against it.
Randy Butternubs
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It's stupid because it's based on nothing. He could be the next Tyler Johnson why, because he's small? You may as well say he might be the next Brian Gibbons. Or Simon Gamache. Or Brett Sterling. Or Tony Hrkac. Or Toby Petersen.
It's just such a meaningless statement.
It's just such a meaningless statement.
cassius
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The Despres trade has certainly resulted in a "the emperor has no clothes" type of moment in terms of Pittsburgh media personalities. Not that anyone thought these guys knew what they were talking about in the first place, but still.
I used to think Dejan was a pretty fair and balanced guy, but for me.. I'll no longer view him as a credible guy after this whole fiasco.
At the end of the day though, I can't fault him for doing what he does. The media these days is an "attention contest" (read more about it here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attention_economy ) and Dejan is very skilled at getting attention.
A great example of the attention economy is a celebrity like Kim Kardashian - she is worth $100M - she doesn't act, she doesn't sing, and she has no real talents so to speak. Her big break was when she appeared in a sex video. However, she is very good at capturing folks attention.
Buzzfeed is another great example too - the site is an absolute joke and an affront to journalism, but they're raking in revenue.
Much like Rob Rossi, Dejan is consciously mortgaging his credibility / reputation to increase page views and ultimately revenue. It's a decision he has made. Economically speaking, I can understand why he would go down that path, however, it does not mean that I'll actually put any stock into anything the guy says.
I used to think Dejan was a pretty fair and balanced guy, but for me.. I'll no longer view him as a credible guy after this whole fiasco.
At the end of the day though, I can't fault him for doing what he does. The media these days is an "attention contest" (read more about it here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attention_economy ) and Dejan is very skilled at getting attention.
A great example of the attention economy is a celebrity like Kim Kardashian - she is worth $100M - she doesn't act, she doesn't sing, and she has no real talents so to speak. Her big break was when she appeared in a sex video. However, she is very good at capturing folks attention.
Buzzfeed is another great example too - the site is an absolute joke and an affront to journalism, but they're raking in revenue.
Much like Rob Rossi, Dejan is consciously mortgaging his credibility / reputation to increase page views and ultimately revenue. It's a decision he has made. Economically speaking, I can understand why he would go down that path, however, it does not mean that I'll actually put any stock into anything the guy says.
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