Pittsburgh Sports Media Gibberish: Bombulie to restore order @ the Trib
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IcedCapp
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Oh for ****s sake.
Yes, Malkin is a ******* saint and Crosby is the ****ing worst. You people and your absolutely moronic double standards.
IC, breathe my friend. They're both going to ask for a trade to Anaheim and then you can move to Southern California.
I have no idea why people have to pitch tents in regards to Sid and Geno. I don't understand it. It's like teenage girls discussing different boy bands.
Jeebus chill IC. Not what I said.
My sense is Crosby is incredibly frustrated (probably for years) and has not lately been able to completely suppress it. He's human, he's been EFFed nine ways from Sunday on and off the ice by this team and sometimes he looks petulant. Geno is not a saint either, and he's been set up to fail also.
I would not blame either of them if they both asked out. I would. Tomorrow.
I don't think I've suggested any double standard at all.
Man, chill.
Not sure if you mean me, but I am pitching no tents at all.
They've been set up to fail by the organization. We see signs of frustration. IMO I've seen a little more lately from Sid, i.e the intentional offsides as a recent example, but I don't think Geno is any less frustrated. Nobody is a saint, nobody is an **** , both are human.
Again, would blame neither one if they walked into Mario's office and asked out tomorrow.
The have been grievously mis-served by this organization on many levels for years.
My dream is they walk into Mario's office as a team and say "Babs or we're gone!" LOL....
But....I dream.....
But....I dream.....
Darth Vitale
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Rob Rossi... he could be living the dream, making kids from all over Pittsburgh smile.
What a selfish dweeb he is, choosing a profession he sucks at and ignoring what he was meant for. I bet they'd even let him wear his stylin' and profilin' hat. He's already got the glasses for it.
A) 100% nobody.
B) A nobody we should expend zero seconds and calories of our precious lives looking up on Google.
**** him and every other Pittsburgh hack blogger / writer who lives to stir virtual poop.
Freeptop
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They underlined "Standard", and emphasized hooks, holds, trips, interference, slashes, high sticks, and cross-checks. It's a shame they didn't put down what that "standard" was on that whiteboard, because holds weren't called all series, interference was only called if someone went to the ice, and hooks were only called when the refs felt like it...
Yeah I saw that. Not sure if it was here or elsewhere.
Bottom line IMO, they called stick fouls much more than interference.
And NYR raise interference to an art form ...Pens don't as much.
Pens poor D, and slowness compared to NYR made them more prone to hooks, holds, trips and so forth, so we got called more.
But the difference was embarrassing, it was like -8 for the Pens after 3-4 games or something where most other series were 1-3. Laughable. Would love to know how often that type of of dif has happened....
Not sure the final tally but would not be surprised if the refs made some effort to even the series a bit so it was less obvious.
Bottom line IMO, they called stick fouls much more than interference.
And NYR raise interference to an art form ...Pens don't as much.
Pens poor D, and slowness compared to NYR made them more prone to hooks, holds, trips and so forth, so we got called more.
But the difference was embarrassing, it was like -8 for the Pens after 3-4 games or something where most other series were 1-3. Laughable. Would love to know how often that type of of dif has happened....
Not sure the final tally but would not be surprised if the refs made some effort to even the series a bit so it was less obvious.
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that guy is the worst, how can one be the worst in this cloaca of sports journalism socalled PGH hockey media is a real achievement. If I remember his son plays college or junior hockey so I guess that gives him right to be stupid openly
vodeni
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I acnnot stand savran anymore. He is another hockey fraud. I cannot understand how one can watch hockey for 40 years and still be clueless. I stopped having any respect for him when he argued for hours that Tanner Glass is a very good third liner. That should automatically discfalify you from talking about hockey. He thinks that he has some ethernal wisdom ehich is always BS. His latest narrative was something about beleiving BS anyways. Howeve the last straw that broke the camel's back is his rant against Geno, I mean serious rant. He even said on his program yesterday that Geno is not HOF player, not exactly like that he said This team is not like 91, 92 team with all the HOFers, this one has one Sid, Geno meh.....FU old crow, his haterd for Geno is only upped by that guy Prisuta, even Madden had to calm him down about Malkin F... them all
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Madden was talking buyouts today. He repeated several times that Kunitz is a big problem in the room. Of course, no details and it is MM. I was ready to chalk this up as a pre buyout anonymous smear campaign but I remember hearing he was a potential problem several times, stretching back to last season's exit interviews. IDK.
Has DK said anything about this? I'm curious if Morehouse is the origin of this.
Has DK said anything about this? I'm curious if Morehouse is the origin of this.
AjaxTelamon
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DK did say this rather definitively in a 4/25 column on his paywall site, it's probably where MM is getting it from. Doesn't make it not true.
He also said Scuds was in line for it too.
As always, take it with a grain of salt.
ComplianceBuyout
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Maybe to add to this, i caught part of the pre-game of Habs vs Sens yesterday here in Mtl radio, and they had Pierre LeBrun on and he was commentig about stuff here and there and they got into the subject of the Pens. Now i caught mostly the end, where he mentions he doesnt expect gm or hc changes but he does see player changes.
That these chances could, and i paraphrase here, "seem reactionary, but there was changes that were being worked on before, that just never materialised". Hopefully other ppl heard this too and could correct me if im wrong.
So could this mean the end of Kunitz, Scuderi et al? Get your conspiracy hats on!
I'm all for moving kunitz....but here we go again with the character assignation. this whole front office needs to go
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DK mentioned something about buying out Kunitz, but I hadn't seen anything about Kunitz being a problem in the locker room, there's been some mention earlier this season (I forgot by whom, but I think DK or Yohe) that Kunitz has been more media-shy/avoiding media ever since the articles came out about being named to Team Canada in the Olympics. But that's all.
NewAgeOutlaw
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This town's hockey media is like the 4 hoursemen who accompany the death of journalism.
-Push an agenda instead of reporting facts. Let your biases create controversy, clicks and cash.
-Never bite the hand that feeds. If you support the organization stupid people will believe that they aren't incompetent. Never let the facts get in the way of a feel good story. You are a mouthpiece for the Penguins, that's it.
-If anybody ever rightfully criticizes you for the 2 above, just block them/delete the comments. Out of sight, out of mind. Constructive criticism no longer matters, surround yourself with sycophants who hang on your every word and who will gladly eat garbage as long as it is you who presents it to them.
They are all idiots. I'd like to see what would happen in just 1 week if competent journalists reported on this team. **** would hit the fan real quickly.
-Push an agenda instead of reporting facts. Let your biases create controversy, clicks and cash.
-Never bite the hand that feeds. If you support the organization stupid people will believe that they aren't incompetent. Never let the facts get in the way of a feel good story. You are a mouthpiece for the Penguins, that's it.
-If anybody ever rightfully criticizes you for the 2 above, just block them/delete the comments. Out of sight, out of mind. Constructive criticism no longer matters, surround yourself with sycophants who hang on your every word and who will gladly eat garbage as long as it is you who presents it to them.
They are all idiots. I'd like to see what would happen in just 1 week if competent journalists reported on this team. **** would hit the fan real quickly.
Freeptop
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Proof that bad hockey journalism isn't limited to just Pittsburgh:
I take it Pierre LeBrun didn't even bother to look up how much cap space the top four players of most teams take up, or else he'd discover that the Pens aren't all that different from other teams, nor are they far off from that of the last several Cup Winners. If the Pens need to trade Malkin because those two take up too much cap space, does that mean Chicago has to trade one of Toews or Kane this summer, when the two of them will take up almost 30% of the Cap on their own? Of course not.
The Pens' problem isn't spending 44% of their cap space on Crosby, Malkin, Letang and Fleury. It's spending so much of the remaining space on older players who aren't very productive (see: Scuderi and this season's version of Kunitz as the prime examples of this).
Really, if trading Malkin for 2-3 players would make the Pens better, wouldn't that same logic say that it would then behoove the Pens to trade Crosby for another 2-3 players? That's 2 players out for up to 6 players back! Obviously, that would make the Pens better!
Let's just ignore the fact that trading Malkin while keeping Kunitz, Dupuis and Scuderi would not make the Pens better.
So much of the talk about trading Malkin seems to come from people who just want to see him somewhere else, not because it would benefit the Pens, but because it would benefit someone else.
http://espn.go.com/blog/nhl/post/_/id/36424/penguins-dont-plan-to-trade-top-four-players
I take it Pierre LeBrun didn't even bother to look up how much cap space the top four players of most teams take up, or else he'd discover that the Pens aren't all that different from other teams, nor are they far off from that of the last several Cup Winners. If the Pens need to trade Malkin because those two take up too much cap space, does that mean Chicago has to trade one of Toews or Kane this summer, when the two of them will take up almost 30% of the Cap on their own? Of course not.
The Pens' problem isn't spending 44% of their cap space on Crosby, Malkin, Letang and Fleury. It's spending so much of the remaining space on older players who aren't very productive (see: Scuderi and this season's version of Kunitz as the prime examples of this).
Really, if trading Malkin for 2-3 players would make the Pens better, wouldn't that same logic say that it would then behoove the Pens to trade Crosby for another 2-3 players? That's 2 players out for up to 6 players back! Obviously, that would make the Pens better!
Let's just ignore the fact that trading Malkin while keeping Kunitz, Dupuis and Scuderi would not make the Pens better.
So much of the talk about trading Malkin seems to come from people who just want to see him somewhere else, not because it would benefit the Pens, but because it would benefit someone else.
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LeBrun is actually pretty good, personally I'd take him over every media option Pittsburgh currently has. The guy is connected and knowledgeable. What does it matter if a small sample size of other teams do it too, a larger sample size do not, he's just stating he doesn't feel its the best route for a team to take, and in many ways he's right. We've seen that lack of balance throughout the lineup here for awhile, and where has it gotten us? I'm not saying we should trade geno, cause I wouldn't, just saying that he has a point w regards to being top heavy cap wise
Here's what the "experts" in the media fail to realize; Sid and Geno aren't the problem. Allocating far too much money to ineffective, over the hill, veteran players for too many years is the problem. Look no further than Dupuis, Scuderi, Kunitz, and Spaling to wonder why we're having trouble filling out the roster with quality players. We give roster spots and way too much cap room to ineffective players. It has nothing to do with Sid or Geno.
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That would true be if Sutter sucked because we're not paying him enough, or if Scuderi sucked because we're not paying him enough, etc. In fact, we pay them too much for their production.
The money for good wingers or a good bottom six isn't going to Sid and Geno. It's going to unproductive players and excess on defense. If we went cheap and young on defense the way we should have been for years, we could afford a high-end bottom six. Hell, we could afford the luxury of Jordan Staal.
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The narrative you're describing isn't interesting or edgy enough at the national level even though it's logical. As long as the big four provide back value relative to their cost, I'm fine with the Pens investing heavily in them. It's a great foundation to build on. Unfortunately they decided it was better to just duct tape a bunch of tarps around it, cross their fingers and hope everything will just work out.
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