Value of: PIT's 2023 1st round pick.

[Gurglesons]

Moving it for either a goaltender or a LD that can play behind or above Pettersson.

Would Calgary be willing to do something around Hanifin + Markstrom for Ty Smith, the 1st, and small cap dump like Ruhwedel or Friedman?

Would Nashville or Winnipeg move Helle or Saros for a package involving it?

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[Mike Jones]

Why would Pittsburgh trade it's 1st round pick after missing the playoffs? They're better off keeping it and using it to help start the process of building a new future.

 

[Soundgarden]

Moving it for either a goaltender or a LD that can play behind or above Pettersson.

Would Calgary be willing to do something around Hanifin + Markstrom for Ty Smith, the 1st, and small cap dump like Ruhwedel or Friedman?

Would Nashville or Winnipeg move Helle or Saros for a package involving it?

Hell no.

Pittsburgh doesn't have the right assets to get Saros if we decided we wanted to move him.

 

[5cotland]

Unfortunately the Pens dont have the assets to trade for Markstrom & Hanafin or one of Helle or Saros.

I don't know what they could possibly add on top of that 1st.

 

[Gurglesons]

Unfortunately the Pens dont habe the assets to trade fot Markstrom & Hanafin or one of Helle or Saros.

I don't know what they could possibly add on top of that 1st.

Do you think Markstrom has value? I'd assume part of the value balance would be them getting out of that contract given they have Vladar and Wolf.

Hell no.

Pittsburgh doesn't have the right assets to get Saros if we decided we wanted to move him.

What do you expect Saros to return?

 

[Byron Bitz]

Why would Pittsburgh trade it's 1st round pick after missing the playoffs? They're better off keeping it and using it to help start the process of building a new future.

I think Burke said something to the affect that they are all in as long as Crosby is still playing at a high level.

 

[Craft Beer Lover]

Why would Pittsburgh trade it's 1st round pick after missing the playoffs? They're better off keeping it and using it to help start the process of building a new future.

Exactly. If they’re lucky (like they always are when owning lottery picks), they could move up into the top five picks.

 

[Gurglesons]

Why would Pittsburgh trade it's 1st round pick after missing the playoffs? They're better off keeping it and using it to help start the process of building a new future.

The 1st round this year will likely be 25-26 once this team is coming out of its rebuild if they are lucky.

Exactly. If they’re lucky (like they always are when owning lottery picks), they could move up into the top five picks.

Obviously if it's top five you keep it. But if we are picking between 13th to 16th it makes no sense with the current contract situation in PIT to keep it.

 

[Soundgarden]

What do you expect Saros to return?

We'd need a young impact player/prospect coming back or very high pick(s). We've already got middle firsts from dealing Ekholm and Jeannot and Saros is worth a lot more than that.
You have to remember we have no reason to trade Saros right now with Askarov still needing a year or two in the minors.

 

[Gurglesons]

We'd need a young impact player/prospect coming back or very high pick(s). We've already got middle firsts from dealing Ekholm and Jeannot and Saros is worth a lot more than that.
You have to remember we have no reason to trade Saros right now with Askarov still needing a year or two in the minors.

Makes sense. So you are expecting Ottawa to give up a player like Pinto or Buffalo to give up Portillo + or something?

 

[Iwishihadaspacebar]

Gibson and Henrique (with retention) to the Pens for the 1st plus something else makes a bit of sense.

 

[Soundgarden]

Makes sense. So you are expecting Ottawa to give up a player like Pinto or Buffalo to give up Portillo + or something?

Portillo the Kings goalie? I'd want someone like Sanderson or Power coming back, a potential impact player that it'd hurt to give up.

 

[Gurglesons]

Portillo the Kings goalie? I'd want someone like Sanderson or Power coming back, a potential impact player that it'd hurt to give up.

Yikes. I don't think a goaltender has ever been moved for that level of player..

Gibson and Henrique (with retention) to the Pens for the 1st plus something else makes a bit of sense.

I don't think the Penguins can afford to take on Henrique with his age. Only way I'd do this trade is if it was a 1st plus Granlund, but that seems like too big of a cap dump for Anaheim.

 

[3074326]

Hell no.

Pittsburgh doesn't have the right assets to get Saros if we decided we wanted to move him.

Umm excuse me, you are forgetting about superstar Mikael Granlund.

 

[hotcabbagesoup]

Gibson and Henrique (with retention) to the Pens for the 1st plus something else makes a bit of sense.

wow this does make sense.

@Zegs2sendhelp what do you think??

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

Exactly. If they’re lucky (like they always are when owning lottery picks), they could move up into the top five picks.

My guess is this is assuming that they're staying put, since it would likely be done after the lottery.

 

[Soundgarden]

Yikes. I don't think a goaltender has ever been moved for that level of player..



I don't think the Penguins can afford to take on Henrique with his age. Only way I'd do this trade is if it was a 1st plus Granlund, but that seems like too big of a cap dump for Anaheim.

Teams also don't give up Vezina caliber goalies in their primes. Saros is a top 3-5 goalie and makes 5m for the next two years.

Saros has about 100 more wins and two(will be three) top 10 Vezina finishes compared to Cory Schneider when he was traded for a top 10 pick.

We're also not looking to move him, other teams are looking to acquire him.

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

Fleury + Minnesota's 1st (~#21) for Pittsburgh's 1st (~#14).

 

[Iwishihadaspacebar]

I don't think the Penguins can afford to take on Henrique with his age. Only way I'd do this trade is if it was a 1st plus Granlund, but that seems like too big of a cap dump for Anaheim.

With retention at around $3m he'd be useful either replacing Zucker or more likely replacing Carter as the 3C

 

[Wattsburgh]

wow this does make sense.

@Zegs2sendhelp what do you think??

No. I think the original poster was closer. 13-15 overall plus POJ Ty Smith and O’Connor for someone like Saros isn’t far off.

Pinto or Power lol.

 

[Soundgarden]

No. I think the original poster was closer. 13-15 overall plus POJ Ty Smith and O’Connor for someone like Saros isn’t far off.

Pinto or Power lol.

We just got mid firsts for Ekholm and Jeannot, Saros is worth more than both. Nashville has no interest in mid firsts and randoms.

 

[Bjornar Moxnes]

Moving it for either a goaltender or a LD that can play behind or above Pettersson.

Would Calgary be willing to do something around Hanifin + Markstrom for Ty Smith, the 1st, and small cap dump like Ruhwedel or Friedman?

Would Nashville or Winnipeg move Helle or Saros for a package involving it?

Deal to the 1st one.

 

[Wattsburgh]

We just got mid firsts for Ekholm and Jeannot, Saros is worth more than both. Nashville has no interest in mid firsts and randoms.

Because Tampa is desperate as are the Oilers in going all in. Be grateful you got that. You won both trades. Doesn’t mean you’d win a third.

Owen Power?

 

[Gurglesons]

Teams also don't give up Vezina caliber goalies in their primes. Saros is a top 3-5 goalie and makes 5m for the next two years.

Saros has about 100 more wins and two(will be three) top 10 Vezina finishes compared to Cory Schneider when he was traded for a top 10 pick.

We're also not looking to move him, other teams are looking to acquire him.

Schenider had team control though.

That's fine though. Hopefully you get the value you believe if moved.

With retention at around $3m he'd be useful either replacing Zucker or more likely replacing Carter as the 3C

It's more adding another 30+ year old forward who has neither size nor grit. I think Henrique is a good player, but without moving out Carter or Granlund, I can't support adding more age and less physicality.

 

[Soundgarden]

Because Tampa is desperate as are the Oilers in going all in. Be grateful you got that. You won both trades. Doesn’t mean you’d win a third.

Owen Power?

Power, Beniers, Sanderson, Byfield, Seider, etc.

Young prospects/players with high potential...we can get and have gotten quantity elsewhere. We're not moving Saros unless a high value asset is coming back and Pittsburgh has none. Maybe a couple firsts starting when Crosby and Malkin retire, but that could be a few years to pay off for us.