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Confirmed Trade: [PIT/WPG] Rutger McGroarty for Brayden Yager

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Fogelhund said:
With the addition of McGroarty, Pittsburgh will have 16 players listed on CapWages for forwards.


Some will get put on waivers and sent to the AHL if cleared, maybe some trades? Who do the Pittsburgh fans think will get moved here?
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Camp's gonna be a bloodbath but this will get worked out. Nieto is cooked. LTIRetirement. Acciari could be moved or waived and no one would care. If a team wants to send us a 3rd for Eller right now he's theirs, and we like Eller. The real question is how do guys like Puljijiarvi, Poulin, Glass, Ponomarev, Puustinen, Beauvillier, Lizotte fit in?

McGroaty Crosby Rust
Bunting Malkin Rakell
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Beauvillier Lizotte Pulji
Poulin Puustinen
 
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The Jets got more cents on the dollar than the Flyers did for Gauthier, when you toss in a 2nd it doesn't magically tip the scales
 
HabsAddict said:
I suspect that when the Habs got Laine, McG was dead to us. Which probably gave Cheve few options but to take the Pens offer.

Having said that, there wasn't any actual rumour that Hughes wanted him. Just speculation. Asset wise, we have them in spades but the closes is Beck. I wouldn't trade Beck for McG because they are the same type of player without the baggage.

Anywho, Laine is proven and vastly superior to McG. All he cost is Molsons money.
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Who's to say he would've wanted Montreal?

I still think the not wanting to go to the AHL was a spin put on for the media but what he really meant was he didn't want Winnipeg or maybe even Canada
 
HabsAddict said:
I suspect that when the Habs got Laine, McG was dead to us. Which probably gave Cheve few options but to take the Pens offer.

Having said that, there wasn't any actual rumour that Hughes wanted him. Just speculation. Asset wise, we have them in spades but the closes is Beck. I wouldn't trade Beck for McG because they are the same type of player without the baggage.

Anywho, Laine is proven and vastly superior to McG. All he cost is Molsons money.
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Are you saying that Chevy had to "settle" for Yager after MTL backed out? And that you wouldn't have offered Beck, who isn't close to Yager, in terms of value?

Never change, Habs fans. Never change
 
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DesertPenguin said:
Camp's gonna be a bloodbath but this will get worked out. Nieto is cooked. LTIRetirement. Acciari could be moved or waived and no one would care. If a team wants to send us a 3rd for Eller right now he's theirs, and we like Eller. The real question is how do guys like Puljijiarvi, Poulin, Glass, Ponomarev, Puustinen, Beauvillier, Lizotte fit in?

McGroaty Crosby Rust
Bunting Malkin Rakell
DOC Hayes Glass
Beauvillier Lizotte Pulji
Poulin Puustinen
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Also Koivunen who i think very, very highly of. That guy is gonna be pushing for a post sooner or later
 
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Torontonian said:
Chevy did well for the Jets here.

Dubas baffles me, you have a team under the gun and know that Mcgroaty isn't going to play for the Jets, and you still swap your top prospect for him? Feels like they could have squeezed them.
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I don't get this thinking. When you say the penguins had a team "under the gun" and could have "squeezed them". Just because the Jets had to trade him doesn't meant that The Penguins were the only suiter for him. I'm sure other teams had strong offers to the Jets for him. Dubas can't just say to Chevy you'll take nothing and like it and give him to us. My guess is that if the pens dont trade Yeager then they dont get McGroarty and he's traded somewhere else for a prospect that's around the same level as Yeager. And if Dubas thinks he's an upgrade and that's the only way the Jets agree to the deal, then you do it.

I think it's fair to like this for both teams. Obviously you probably would have wanted to hold Yeager and make a trade for McGroarty but it doesnt seem like it gets done if you dont. You get rid of a top 40 to 60 prospect for a top 25 to 40 type prospect. Which is a win. And Chevy does well to get a slightly worse prospect but for a player that wanted out. Win-Win
 
JKG33 said:
Who's to say he would've wanted Montreal?

I still think the not wanting to go to the AHL was a spin put on for the media but what he really meant was he didn't want Winnipeg or maybe even Canada
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I could see not wanting to go to the Peg.

If he didn't want to go to Montreal it would be due to out rabid media. He would be eaten alive if he turned out to be a dud while taking a spot of so mant prospects.
 
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Oilslick941611 said:
Canadian teams shouldn't draft NCAA Americans.

Seems rare that they play for the teams that draft them.
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I was always taught that one of the good things about going to college is that it gives you more options in life. Props to anyone for choosing a path that gives them some more autonomy over their career.
 
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Buffdog said:
Are you saying that Chevy had to "settle" for Yager after MTL backed out? And that you wouldn't have offered Beck, who isn't close to Yager, in terms of value?

Never change, Habs fans. Never change
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Obviously you know nothing about Beck.
 
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Lockin17 said:
WTF is wrong with prospect now a days.
Freaking whining little princess ...
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loyalty is overrated. These players are protected by a union and just exercising their rights. There's nothing wrong with that and this isn't anything new.

Tell me how long you'd stay with an employer that didn't feel you were ready to make the jump (and get a significant pay raise) and you were 100% confident that you were?
 
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I don't get this for the Pens, Winnipeg really didn't have a ton of leverage and they give up their top prospect. McGroaty is probably an upgrade but I feel like he could have been had for less? Maybe not.

Jets did well out of a bad situation. Chevy, once again, making chicken salad out of a chicken shit situation. Has there been a GM with a tougher job in the league in the last decade of players asking out?
 
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Empoleon8771 said:
Literally every single prospect rating list I can find has McGroaty ranked above Yager.
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Same. There is slight value difference between McGroarty and Yager. That small gap in value was covered by the minor loss of leverage by him not being willing to sign in Winnipeg, thus it was an even 1:1 swap.
 
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Glad that the jets got a similar valued prospect for a kid who didn’t want to play for them. Hopefully it works out for all sides.
 
Yager drafted by Pens and McGroarty drafted by Winnipeg seemed strange for me anyways haha… this is more like it now having them swap up
 
Buffdog said:
Are you saying that Chevy had to "settle" for Yager after MTL backed out? And that you wouldn't have offered Beck, who isn't close to Yager, in terms of value?

Never change, Habs fans. Never change
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Stop putting us all in the same basket. It’s a sophism and so is bad argumenting.
 
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