GDT: PIT at SEA Sat Jan 25 EARLY @4 est

[farscape1]

So no post game? Maybe its good Pickering is in WBS since this whole team is so bad its probably hurting Pickering.

 

[Duffy13]

Phil Bourque perplexed about not being able to score.... Tale as old as time

 

[Turin]

So no post game? Maybe its good Pickering is in WBS since this whole team is so bad its probably hurting Pickering.

At this point we should be focused on hoping WBS and the prospects there win. They're AHL contenders this year...

 

[AuroraBorealis]

Stop winning meaningless games. It’s time for the tank.

Close to 3 years ago it was, yes.

 

[Turin]

Phil Bourque perplexed about not being able to score.... Tale as old as time

Haha yea.

No Malkin and Rust.

Why can't this team with only Crosby/Rakell and nobody else score? It's a mystery.

 

[SomeDude]

So no post game? Maybe its good Pickering is in WBS since this whole team is so bad its probably hurting Pickering.

Honestly we need to get Blomqvist outta here so he doesn't get shell shock and call up Larsson when he's healthy or whoever else we don't care about getting ruined.

 

[ChaosAgent]

Oh i think he legit done. (Jarry)

But our current defense will give up 2-3 unstoppable Goals a game. You can't expect to leave 2-3 dudes complete uncovered in the slot and expect a goalie "to make saves every time"

If we add current defense goals + above average goalies will give up ~ 2 goals a game. (Jarry felt like 3-5 min)

We are roughly at ~4 goals a game minimum with this defense (probably 5.5 goals for current Jarry) if you go by basic napkin math. Or you could just say we suck. I'm taking the easy way out and just saying we suck.

I think Jarry mentally broke starting in the 2021 Isles series, and now the scar tissue is too much to overcome.
Jarry and Murray were very different style goalies, but in the end their fates are the same - they don't have it between the ears.

That said, as you point out with your images the Penguins team defense gives up staggeringly bad chances against and odd-man breaks galore. So most any goalie would struggle here.

 

[Pancakes]

Bylsma 2-0ed Sully. The Chad Bylsma coach once again out maneuvers the weak Sully.

 

[Gurglesons]

Kyle Dubas destroyed this team with the Graves deal and EK trade. Impressive work.

Not sure how anyone can have any hope for the immediate future of the Penguins.

Dubas has been swindled by half the league in trades. The Leafs have largely had little success with drafting and the Penguins prospect pool looks mid as hell.

The immediate and future is extremely dark in PIT and we all know Sully’s coming back next year. Best scenario is we somehow luck into a top 5 1st.

Haven’t felt this bad about the team since 2014-15.

 

[Andy99]

If we’re going for the tank, no reason not to bring Jarry back up here and go for bottom five lol….I feel bad for Blom

 

[centipede2233]

Kyle Dubas destroyed this team with the Graves deal and EK trade. Impressive work.

Not sure how anyone can have any hope for the immediate future of the Penguins.

Dubas has been swindled by half the league in trades. The Leafs have largely had little success with drafting and the Penguins prospect pool looks mid as hell.

The immediate and future is extremely dark in PIT and we all know Sully’s coming back next year. Best scenario is we somehow luck into a top 5 1st.

Haven’t felt this bad about the team since 2014-15.

I concur everything you’ve said.

 

[Pancakes]

Kyle Dubas destroyed this team with the Graves deal and EK trade. Impressive work.

Not sure how anyone can have any hope for the immediate future of the Penguins.

Dubas has been swindled by half the league in trades. The Leafs have largely had little success with drafting and the Penguins prospect pool looks mid as hell.

The immediate and future is extremely dark in PIT and we all know Sully’s coming back next year. Best scenario is we somehow luck into a top 5 1st.

Haven’t felt this bad about the team since 2014-15.

Lol what was there to destroy? The Pens sucked before Dubas took over and they still suck now that he's in charge.

 

[SEALBound]

Kyle Dubas destroyed this team with the Graves deal and EK trade. Impressive work.

Not sure how anyone can have any hope for the immediate future of the Penguins.

Dubas has been swindled by half the league in trades. The Leafs have largely had little success with drafting and the Penguins prospect pool looks mid as hell.

The immediate and future is extremely dark in PIT and we all know Sully’s coming back next year. Best scenario is we somehow luck into a top 5 1st.

Haven’t felt this bad about the team since 2014-15.

Now would be a great time to pack it in and quit following them. And you could stop posting here while you're at it.

No one would blame you. Pens suck, Dubas sucks...it all sucks. We'd all understand if you left.

 

[Rudy Russo]

I have zero confidence in Dubas. Thanks Fenway Sports Group.

 

[SEALBound]

@Jesse

We love you more than DK. I feel quite confident speaking for the entire board. Just in case there were any questions.

 

[Turin]

Criticizing Dubas for Graves is one thing, for EK is another

But blaming him for the Pens prospect pool when literally like 8 of the top 10 prospects in the system he has brought in within the last 10 months is really stupid

 

[Pancakes]

Criticizing Dubas for Graves is one thing, for EK is another

But blaming him for the Pens prospect pool when literally like 8 of the top 10 prospects in the system he has brought in within the last 10 months is really stupid

I mean the Graves and Jarry deals sucked but it's also whatever. Even if you invent a time machine and undo those moves it's hard to envision a scenario where the Pens aren't still bad right now.

 

[Jacob]

I think he is referring to me, and my feelings are hurt.

Karlsson was good, homie

No Turin.

 

[Turin]

I mean the Graves and Jarry deals sucked but it's also whatever. Even if you invent a time machine and undo those moves it's hard to envision a scenario where the Pens aren't still bad right now.

The entire Penguin future from 2022 onwards depended on Letang being good and Malkin defying time like Sid. Neither happened, neither was likely I guess. That’s not to absolve blame to anybody who made things worse in the meantime, but the Pens simply are not contenders if Crosby is the only guy in the core who can look like the best player on the ice from time to time. Now that it’s clear even the sentiment of making the playoffs is too far gone because of the other mistakes it’s time to tank.

No Turin.

Sorry man, you’ve been liking my posts for years - I thought we had something

 

[Rudy Russo]

LOL. Some of the Pittsburgh media are pissed at Jesse Marshall right now on X. (Twitter)

 

[SomeDude]

Kyle Dubas destroyed this team with the Graves deal and EK trade. Impressive work.

Not sure how anyone can have any hope for the immediate future of the Penguins.

Dubas has been swindled by half the league in trades. The Leafs have largely had little success with drafting and the Penguins prospect pool looks mid as hell.

The immediate and future is extremely dark in PIT and we all know Sully’s coming back next year. Best scenario is we somehow luck into a top 5 1st.

Haven’t felt this bad about the team since 2014-15.

You're forgetting that it is literally everyone's fault but his. Kyle has never got a fair shake. How is he supposed to get a premium return on an elite rental winger that won't talk extension with the Carolina Hurricanes? Just let the guy cook. We're gonna need at least 2 decades of data to be able to get a vibe on where his tenure is heading.

 

[ChaosAgent]

The entire Penguin future from 2022 onwards depended on Letang being good and Malkin defying time like Sid. Neither happened, neither was likely I guess. That’s not to absolve blame to anybody who made things worse in the meantime, but the Pens simply are not contenders if Crosby is the only guy in the core who can look like the best player on the ice from time to time. Now that it’s clear even the sentiment of making the playoffs is too far gone because of the other mistakes it’s time to tank.

I think Jarry also tanked the team, and the PP's failure last year did as well.

They have also staked their entire team to a coach whose philosophy is like 6 years past its time.

LOL. Some of the Pittsburgh media are pissed at Jesse Marshall right now on X. (Twitter)

Maybe it's time to move to Bluesky

 

[Big Friggin Dummy]

This is the kinda game that makes me laugh when people are like "As long as Sid's still here they'll never be bad enough to truly tank." This team tanked with Mario, man.

You remove a couple of useful guys with a bit of value via trade and this team's easily gunning for a top-5 pick this year then McKenna and Dupont over the next few drafts.

I dunno. Again, nothing matters in either direction--retool on the fly, or rebuild from the ground up through drafting and development--until Sully's gone. Hopefully this team shits itself for the rest of the year and he's gone this spring. Man, I'll be so f***ing happy the day Sully's no longer in this organization. Idiotic, dysfunctional franchise from top to bottom.

 

[Gurglesons]

Lol what was there to destroy? The Pens sucked before Dubas took over and they still suck now that he's in charge.

The Penguins made the playoffs twice and missed them by one point the three years before Dubas.

Dubas lost what could be a franchise defenseman with our 1st and then got a pittance of a return for Guentzel.

The future is bleak until management realizes we’ve got an absolute clown at the mantle.

He’s effectively made two or three good moves since coming here. It’s wild people defend him lol. Especially as one of our rivals completely runs circles around us.

 

[Pancakes]

The entire Penguin future from 2022 onwards depended on Letang being good and Malkin defying time like Sid. Neither happened, neither was likely I guess. That’s not to absolve blame to anybody who made things worse in the meantime, but the Pens simply are not contenders if Crosby is the only guy in the core who can look like the best player on the ice from time to time. Now that it’s clear even the sentiment of making the playoffs is too far gone because of the other mistakes it’s time to tank.

I feel like the absolute ceiling for the Pens if Dubas had nailed every trade and free agent signing would have been contending for 7th or 8th place and then getting ousted in the first or second round.

Which I'd absolutely prefer that over picking 14th overall again but Dubas unfortunately did not prove to be perfect or even close.

But to act like Dubas ruined the Pens future is asinine. They have no future. They never did. They won't have one until Crosby retires and/or they tank their way into elite talent. Until then any future is going to rely on them getting insanely lucky in the draft by finding elite talent outside of the top 5.