Proposal: [PIT] [ANA] Poulin for LaCombe

[DesertPenguin]

All just to get an underwhelming AHL dman for Poulin? Meh. I think that overcomplicates things. I'd rather find someone that needs Gryz and send him out for a 4th.

The only team that needs Gryzelcyk is the one competing for a lottery pick.

 

[MMC]

I mean Anaheim has no cap problems so maybe a bad for bad swap isn't necessary. I'm fine just sending Gryzelcyk to WBS, or just shooting him into the sun.

In concept though, another Sprong for Pettersson deal is what we're looking for.

You should probably consider what the other team is looking for as well

 

[Petes2424]

Good bet Anaheim could get someone like Berggren or Robertson level for Lacombe. He’s gonna be a solid 4/5 through his prime. He’s at the point he just needs to bank more experience and maturity now.

 

[Empoleon8771]

Good bet Anaheim could get someone like Berggren or Robertson level for Lacombe. He’s gonna be a solid 4/5 through his prime. He’s at the point he just needs to bank more experience and maturity now.

Yeah I could see Puustinen for Lacombe being of more interest to them. Puustinen is a bit older but he's more of a proven NHL player than Poulin.

 

[MMC]

Yeah I could see Puustinen for Lacombe being of more interest to them. Puustinen is a bit older but he's more of a proven NHL player than Poulin.

Wouldn't do that either

 

[anezthes]

No, thanks.

 

[FiveTacos]

Who’s the underwhelming AHL dman you speak of?

It's sure as hell not Lacombe, who's never played a single game in the AHL. Even if he doesn't improve one lick, he's already good enough for a decent career as a 3rd pairing NHLer. Worse guys than him are hanging around on NHL rosters.

Yeah I could see Puustinen for Lacombe being of more interest to them. Puustinen is a bit older but he's more of a proven NHL player than Poulin.

All he's proven is that he's a 25 year old undersized skill player who doesn't score a lot.

 

[Crazy8oooo]

It's sure as hell not Lacombe, who's never played a single game in the AHL. Even if he doesn't improve one lick, he's already good enough for a decent career as a 3rd pairing NHLer. Worse guys than him are hanging around on NHL rosters.

Yep. Not sure why he’s making comments about a player he obviously knows nothing about.

 

[Rec T]

Yep. Not sure why he’s making comments about a player he obviously knows nothing about.

To be fair, that's pretty much expected with any Anaheim trade thread...

 

[Crazy8oooo]

To be fair, that's pretty much expected with any Anaheim trade thread...

No doubt. It’s humorous.

 

[Empoleon8771]

All he's proven is that he's a 25 year old undersized skill player who doesn't score a lot.

If that's how you describe Puustinen, I'm curious for how you'd describe Zegras.

 

[Crazy8oooo]

If that's how you describe Puustinen, I'm curious for how you'd describe Zegras.

I know that wasn’t directed at me but…

One is a 25 year old with a high of 5 goals and 25 points.

The other is a 23 year old with two 20+ goal, 60+ point seasons.

 

[Empoleon8771]

I know that wasn’t directed at me but…

One is a 25 year old with a high of 5 goals and 25 points.

The other is a 23 year old with two 20+ goal, 60+ point seasons.

The career high doesn't matter if Zegras only has like 20 points in his last 2 years and is pacing for like 16 points this year.

 

[FiveTacos]

The career high doesn't matter if Zegras only has like 20 points in his last 2 years and is pacing for like 16 points this year.

It's not like it was ages ago. One injury plagued year last year where he played hurt and out of position, then broke his ankle.

And have you checked his splits at LW vs C? He's played around the same number of games at each position the last two years, but overall he's gotten 15 of his 19 points at C. Which is probably why they've finally given up on the LW experiment the last two weeks.

But sure, Puustinen is very similar to Zegras at LW. Problem is, Zegras as a LW .... sucks.

 

[MMC]

If that's how you describe Puustinen, I'm curious for how you'd describe Zegras.

As a better player than f***ing Valtteri Puustinen that’s for sure

 

[Crazy8oooo]

The career high doesn't matter if Zegras only has like 20 points in his last 2 years and is pacing for like 16 points this year.

It’s disingenuous of you to make it like it’s been two years when a) it’s been a little over a season, and b) he was injured most of last season. He played injured to start and then missed a ton of games on IR, only to return healthy and put up good numbers to end the season. But yeah, let’s pretend that he played all last season and has already played another full season this season.

 

[Honour Over Glory]

What gives you any indication a team would be willing to trade a young player that they’re clearly high on for some bozo who cleared waivers?

They did trade us Pettersson for Sprong.

 

[biturbo19]

I was thinking that since Pettersson is likely going to be traded, it would make sense to try to have another defenseman on hand already, instead of trying to replace him afterward with someone who is already in the system.

Pettersson being likely to move is a valid point, but i'd question is Lacombe is really the right type of defenceman for the Penguins as a "fit". Or if he'd just end up sort of "lost in the shuffle" if he doesn't mesh with Letang/Karlsson.

Doesn't really matter if the value is Poulin going back...who has a pretty replaceable profile himself. But i'm not sure this really appeals to the Ducks on "value" and i don't think any more value makes sense for the Penguins. Also just question where he'd play in the meantime, unless it's a follow-up or precursor to a Pettersson trade. But even then...Graves is the main real "big size" guy left, and he's already sort of "poor fitted" himself to a pairing away from both Karlsson and Letang because that doesn't work. So you have to think Lacombe will fit with one of those two and i'm not sold on the idea. You never know though...

 

[Rec T]

It’s disingenuous of you to make it like it’s been two years when a) it’s been a little over a season, and b) he was injured most of last season. He played injured to start and then missed a ton of games on IR, only to return healthy and put up good numbers to end the season. But yeah, let’s pretend that he played all last season and has already played another full season this season.

Well yes, but if they weren't able to use cherry picked time lines and deliberately misinterpreted stats then they might be forced to give up their fantasy that they can steal Zegras from Anaheim for a box of used practice pucks and a 7th round pick. And we certainly can't have that...

 

[WhatTheDuck]

I could see doing this type of deal with Lacombe, but the forward coming back needs to have more comparable upside.

Would rather package together some pieces for some more established help though, the Ducks need to start icing a more competitive product.

 

[duckpuck]

I could see doing this type of deal with Lacombe, but the forward coming back needs to have more comparable upside.

Would rather package together some pieces for some more established help though, the Ducks need to start icing a more competitive product.

I agree Lacombe should be available in a trade for a forward with upside.

In terms of many other posts in this thread, if you're looking to trade Poulin or Puustinen, the target on the ducks should be Vaakanainen. He's likely the odd man out, is a decent bottom pair option, but has some upside (just not as much as Lacombe). That being said, I don't think the ducks need more bottom 6 wings. So it would just be a trade of spare parts.

They did trade us Pettersson for Sprong.

You get one of these. That was a brutal trade for the ducks.

 

[Honour Over Glory]

I agree Lacombe should be available in a trade for a forward with upside.

In terms of many other posts in this thread, if you're looking to trade Poulin or Puustinen, the target on the ducks should be Vaakanainen. He's likely the odd man out, is a decent bottom pair option, but has some upside (just not as much as Lacombe). That being said, I don't think the ducks need more bottom 6 wings. So it would just be a trade of spare parts.



You get one of these. That was a brutal trade for the ducks.

I mean the last couple worked out for us vs the Ducks.

Kunitz
Hagelin
Pettersson

 

[caliamad]

Ducks needs
faceoff specialist
Upgrade rhd top4
Dump killorn

Ducks surplus lhd
Fowler
vaakanainen
Lacombe
Possibly dumolin because expiring contract but last one is trade right now

Right now
Zellwegger
Mintyukov