OT: Pirates Talk: That Skenes guy is okay at teh baseball

DJ Spinoza

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That's true, but we're also talking about a 27-year old. Maybe he has a Max Muncy type career arc, but his upside is probably more like 3 or 4 solid years. His upside will especially be in his dirt cheap years, since he doesn't have much of a carrying tool, but in fairness to him he could carve out a floor path with consistent OBP if he's able to maintain the solid power year over year (a nicer way to say he's basically worthless if he starts hitting 12ish HRs a year max).
 

ImporterExporter

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The only way this team wins anything of note is by literally pulling off this.



"This guy's here is DEAD":laugh:

Also, the amount of times I've said "Giiiivvvvee eeeeummmm the hearterrrrrrr" at games and in general life is too many to count haha.
 

Empoleon8771

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That's true, but we're also talking about a 27-year old. Maybe he has a Max Muncy type career arc, but his upside is probably more like 3 or 4 solid years. His upside will especially be in his dirt cheap years, since he doesn't have much of a carrying tool, but in fairness to him he could carve out a floor path with consistent OBP if he's able to maintain the solid power year over year (a nicer way to say he's basically worthless if he starts hitting 12ish HRs a year max).

Yeah my point wasn't to say you were wrong, but it makes sense for why Horwitz had much more value than Naylor. That said, I think there's a legit argument that they should have traded less for Naylor even though he would almost definitely be a pure rental.



Looks like Cleveland replaced Naylor with Santana.
 
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