OT: Pirates Talk: Lets Play Ball

[bigdaddyk88]

I admit I'm not in the know with baseball's revenue shares and such but would something work where teams are rewarded for winning, such as the more wins you get the more revenue share you receive?

No that would not work for any sport. In baseball they already share close to 50 percent of tickets and local tv deals. So baseball is extremely regional. The issue is no salary cap or floor like other sports. The NBA killed the super teams and provided incentives for homegrown players to sign with their drafted teams. Hockey you can offer an extra year but every is playing in the same cap bracket

 

[MrBrightside]

A lineup with Valdez leading off and Endy batting cleanup should be enough to get Shelton fired.

 

[ImporterExporter]

Reds have 5 runs on 1 damn hit.

But people will still show up to PNC to watch this shit because why not throw away a couple hundred dollars in a wonderful economy!

 

[ImporterExporter]

Reynolds extended at over 100M and sucks. Hayes sucks. Keller is the best of the bunch of guys we paid actual money and he's a mid rotation arm.

This is just a clown org. at every level.

 

[Shrimper]

Reynolds extended at over 100M and sucks. Hayes sucks. Keller is the best of the bunch of guys we paid actual money and he's a mid rotation arm.

This is just a clown org. at every level.

Majority of the team sucks.

Outside of Reynolds, Skenes and McCutchen I have zero care for the rest of them.

 

[ImporterExporter]

Majority of the team sucks.

Outside of Reynolds, Skenes and McCutchen I have zero care for the rest of them.

Reynolds is being paid over 100M to essentially be a DH who is trending towards a league average hitter. He sucks if that's the case.

 

[bigdaddyk88]

Reynolds is being paid over 100M to essentially be a DH who is trending towards a league average hitter. He sucks if that's the case.

He was always going to transition to 1st or DH with that extension

 

[Coffee]

Yikes @Empoleon8771

Orioles are going to win the whole thing anyways

 

[metalan2]

In 80 to 90% of games the Pirates only scored runs in one or two innings. It's obscene.

This game was easily winnable once again with any semblance of normal defense.

 

[metalan2]

Reds have 5 runs on 1 damn hit.

But people will still show up to PNC to watch this shit because why not throw away a couple hundred dollars in a wonderful economy!

No one is going to the games.

 

[GilbertSeinfeld]

No one is going to the games.

By the time the weather is warm, the team should be about 15 games under, so if the stadium is still around 8,200, we'll know fan apathy, for sure.

 

[ImporterExporter]

He was always going to transition to 1st or DH with that extension

Then why pay 100M for a DH?

Again, asset management is a f***ing F, along with every other aspect of this franchise.

When you have an owner that almost never hands out extensions, you'd better hit on the ones you do. And we don't.

 

[bigdaddyk88]

Then why pay 100M for a DH?

Again, asset management is a f***ing F, along with every other aspect of this franchise.

When you have an owner that almost never hands out extensions, you'd better hit on the ones you do. And we don't.

The bulk of teams are handing out extensions for guys who will finish out careers as DH. If he just plays 1st like Harper fine. Devers Vlad both got extensions with DH in mind
The issue is lack of spending

 

[Shrimper]

Elly Grand Slam

Another loss coming

 

[Mr Jeff Jimerson]

Elly Grand Slam

Another loss coming

The disturbing truth most Buccos fans won't admit is Cincy's Cruz is 10x the player as Pittsburgh's Cruz. I'd bet big money O'neal Cruz won't hit a grand slam in his entire career.

Deal with it.

 

[BusinessGoose]

Well, CIN is pretty terrible too, so, it's not over yet

 

[metalan2]

The disturbing truth most Buccos fans won't admit is Cincy's Cruz is 10x the player as Pittsburgh's Cruz. I'd bet big money O'neal Cruz won't hit a grand slam in his entire career.

Deal with it.

He's very similar, for sure better, but not 10x.

 

[metalan2]

It's hard to believe year six of the five year plan the Pirates are worse than ever. This lineup is embarrassing, on paper one of the worst we've seen, and that's really an absurd thing to say.

 

[ImporterExporter]

The Pirates are completely inept offensively. They've developed some pitchers, found some real gems in FA, but their ability to grow hitters internally is as big an F grade as you can give a franchise.

Davis is well on his way to being a monumentally bad bust as a 1 overall. When you're as cheap as the Pirates, you can't afford to miss on that kind of pick. Even if the guy doesn't turn out to be a star, you need an above average league player and HD is just completely overmatched at the ML level.

 

[GilbertSeinfeld]

The Pirates are completely inept offensively. They've developed some pitchers, found some real gems in FA, but their ability to grow hitters internally is as big an F grade as you can give a franchise.

Davis is well on his way to being a monumentally bad bust as a 1 overall. When you're as cheap as the Pirates, you can't afford to miss on that kind of pick. Even if the guy doesn't turn out to be a star, you need an above average league player and HD is just completely overmatched at the ML level.

I'm not ready to write off Davis as a bust yet.

If/when they get a new GM and manager, I'd like to see how he responds.

Davis' MLB struggles alone should have been enough to get, at the very least, a new manager.

 

[ImporterExporter]

I'm not ready to write off Davis as a bust yet.

If/when they get a new GM and manager, I'd like to see how he responds.

Davis' MLB struggles alone should have been enough to get, at the very least, a new manager.

Well, I did say "on his way".

The problem with Davis is mental from reputable people in the know. Combine being a dick with a lack of willingness to adapt to coaching.

And I was, along with a lot of other folks, very happy when we took him as an under slot guy. It made sense, and his floor seemed fairly high. But that's baseball, and again, the Pirates inability to develop competent offensive talent is a glaring issue.

 

[GilbertSeinfeld]

It's a big reason I don't want Griffin to be anywhere near the MLB team until this group of incompetent idiots are gone.

 

[MrBrightside]

 

[GilbertSeinfeld]

Hard to believe a team that spent next to nothing on improving a terrible offense is still terrible.

 

[wheelz87]

I mean Pham, Frazier.. dudes named Valdez and Canario are getting at bats. Hayes is batting freakin third. It’s a disaster offensively.