Proposal: Pietrangelo for Nylander

[Kshahdoo]

It will probably never happen, but why not to discuss such a trade? Especially considering, that one team has problems with scoring, and the other with defense.

The Blues have one of the best defense, but it doesn't help them to win as often as they want. Toronto has a lot of firepower, but without a solid defense, it frequently looks like a glass canon.

So trade for Pietrangelo gets them top4 of

Rielly - Pietrangello
Gardiner - Zaitsev

Which looks very sexy.

And Tarasenko centering by Nylander... It can be a very dangerous line, no matter who the 3rd player is.

Moreover, both teams will still have enough good defenders and forwards to move forward. STL will be able to resign Shattenkirk, and Marner can play with Mathews.

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[Evocable Manager]

Pietrangelo is gonna cost a lot more than Nylander.
Matthews would have be coming back. Were not trading our captain and second best player unless we are receiving a franchise center. Matthews is the only player who fits the bill.

God knows Toronto doesn't want him to be moved.

 

[Kamiccolo]

Leafs decline. While this is a great trade for us, he is just entering his prime. This means when the Leaf are ready to compete in 3-5 years, he will be past his prime and on the decline. Meanwhile Nylander will just be hitting his.

We'd need someone closer to Nylanders age to make that trade.

 

[Kamiccolo]

Pietrangelo is gonna cost a lot more than Nylander.
Matthews would have be part of the package. Were not trading our captain and best player unless we are receiving a franchise center.

Matthews + ?

 

[Apotheosis]

Pietrangelo is gonna cost a lot more than Nylander.
Matthews would have be part of the package. Were not trading our captain and second best player unless we are receiving a franchise center. Matthews is the only player who fits the bill.

God knows Toronto doesn't want him to be moved.

Yeah, no.

 

[Kshahdoo]

Leafs decline. While this is a great trade for us, he is just entering his prime. This means when the Leaf are ready to compete in 3-5 years, he will be past his prime and on the decline. Meanwhile Nylander will just be hitting his.

We'd need someone closer to Nylanders age to make that trade.

Yeah, Keith at his 33 is so out of his prime and bad... Defensemen's prime lasts way longer, than forwards'. Or rather starts later.

 

[Evocable Manager]

Matthews + ?

I edited, realizing how ridiculous that sounded. .

 

[Kshahdoo]

I edited, realizing how ridiculous that sounded. .

Nylander's offensive talent is probably on par with Mathews'.

 

[Tatar Shots]

No way Blues do this trade.

 

[Vatican Roulette]

I edited, realizing how ridiculous that sounded. .

Yeah you can't talk about Left Coast Jesus like that.

 

[Empoleon8771]

People here seem to forget that Pietrangelo himself was a #4 overall pick once upon a time. It would definitely cost Matthews for him and I'd probably even argue that there would need to be a plus with Matthews. Pietrangelo is a #1 franchise RHD.

 

[Apathetic]

Blues add big. Nylander would instantly become the Blues top forward, and probably their best forward in franchise history. While Petro is good he would be 2nd fiddle to Zaitsev on the right side in a couple years from now when Toronto will be playing in the SC finals.
Look at the last two conn smythe winners, Crosby and Kane. Is it that hard to see that that's where Nylander is headed? Toronto needs to keep him.

 

[Skobel24]

Blues add big. Nylander would instantly become the Blues top forward, and probably their best forward in franchise history. While Petro is good he would be 2nd fiddle to Zaitsev on the right side in a couple years from now when Toronto will be playing in the SC finals.
Look at the last two conn smythe winners, Crosby and Kane. Is it that hard to see that that's where Nylander is headed? Toronto needs to keep him.

Doubt it. I also seriously doubt Zaitsev winds up anywhere near the level of Pietrangelo.

Moving on, I can't see the Blues trading Pietrangelo. Dealing him just creates a hole on the blueline.

 

[Kshahdoo]

People here seem to forget that Pietrangelo himself was a #4 overall pick once upon a time. It would definitely cost Matthews for him and I'd probably even argue that there would need to be a plus with Matthews. Pietrangelo is a #1 franchise RHD.

Nylander will be a very good offensive 1C, exactly what Blues need. He looks better than Mathews right now. Of course, he's a bit older and has more experience, but still.

Toronto can even add one of their wingers, they don't have enough spots for them anyway.

 

[voxel]

Matthews would be the only fair trade for the Blues.

Nylander might be better now, but he's also older (and two draft years ahead).

 

[Bobby Orrtuzzo]

Blues add big. Nylander would instantly become the Blues top forward, and probably their best forward in franchise history. While Petro is good he would be 2nd fiddle to Zaitsev on the right side in a couple years from now when Toronto will be playing in the SC finals.
Look at the last two conn smythe winners, Crosby and Kane. Is it that hard to see that that's where Nylander is headed? Toronto needs to keep him.

I agree, Brett Hull was a total scrub. Also, while it was temporary, that useless plug Gretzky was here for a minute.

 

[KirkOut]

not even remotely close. an embarrassing offer tbh. lock the thread.

 

[Evocable Manager]

Blues add big. Nylander would instantly become the Blues top forward, and probably their best forward in franchise history. While Petro is good he would be 2nd fiddle to Zaitsev on the right side in a couple years from now when Toronto will be playing in the SC finals.
Look at the last two conn smythe winners, Crosby and Kane. Is it that hard to see that that's where Nylander is headed? Toronto needs to keep him.

Instantly our best forward?
Yea cause the two time 70 point player, who happens to be the 2nd best RW and goal scorer in the world is just God awful.
Also, Zaitsev will probably never come close to what Petro is.

 

[NiL8r87]

Instantly our best forward?
Yea cause the two time 70 point player, who happens to be the 2nd best RW and goal scorer in the world is just God awful.
Also, Zaitsev will probably never come close to what Petro is.

He's just trolling.

At first I thought asking for Matthews was pretty ridiculous, and maybe it is, but if Pietrangelo could still be a 50 pt defenceman without Shattenkirk then maybe it makes sense. No way I'd ever do it though.

 

[Evocable Manager]

He's just trolling.

At first I thought asking for Matthews was pretty ridiculous, and maybe it is, but if Pietrangelo could still be a 50 pt defenceman without Shattenkirk then maybe it makes sense. No way I'd ever do it though.

Petro doesn't play with Shattenkirk, never has. He could hit 50 points. He plays with Bouwmeester who's just awful offensively.
In the beginning of the year, he played on our #1PP unit and it was great. For no reason, he was taken off and now our PP is bad.
Matthew's will never be traded so the discussion is simply worthless. We'd need a franchise center or sure fire franchise center to consider moving Pietrangelo, Matthew's fits the bill but obviously Toronto won't move him.

 

[NiL8r87]

Petro doesn't play with Shattenkirk, never has. He could hit 50 points. He plays with Bouwmeester who's just awful offensively.
In the beginning of the year, he played on our #1PP unit and it was great. For no reason, he was taken off and now our PP is bad.
Matthew's will never be traded so the discussion is simply worthless. We'd need a franchise center or sure fire franchise center to consider moving Pietrangelo, Matthew's fits the bill but obviously Toronto won't move him.

I know they don't play together but Shattenkirk is taking some of his powerplay minutes no?

 

[AvroArrow]

Doesn't make sense for either team. Blues aren't trading their top D and captain. Leafs aren't trading their very promising young forward. Two teams and two different stages, bad trade for both teams.

 

[Bluesnatic27]

Nylander would instantly become the Blues top forward

probably their best forward in franchise history

While Petro is good he would be 2nd fiddle to Zaitsev on the right side in a couple years from now

I hope this was a joke.

 

[Oscar Lindberg]

Lamoriello would drive Nylander to St Louis himself lol gtfo saying the Leafs decline this

 

[bleedblue1223]

Blues won't trade Pietrangelo, simple as that.