Speculation: Pierre-Luc Dubois Mega thread. (LAK frontrunner, but Montreal has circled back)

[HABitual Fan]

Ask your GM why, he apparently wants PLD.....Chevy refused his offer last summer (rumored) and has again so far this summer (as it was reported Habs have talked to the Jets about PLD again this summer).......so Chevy has rejected two offers at a min from the Habs between last summer and this summer.

Jets fans don't care where he goes, just want whatever the market will give at the most.

Maybe Habs rejected Jets ask? All indications are Habs would be interested in PLD as a UFA, not at the cost of assets whatever they may be, that they don't want to part with.

 

[Lolonegoal]

Not really. Caufield doesn't deserve Dubois money or get paid more than Suzuki. The respect the hierarchy thing is kind of dumb when there's no legendary superstar captain on the Habs right now.

I agree as a Habs fan. There's this narrative amongst Habs fans right now that Caufield signed at a discount in order to instill some sort of inspiration for team players to sign an internal player cap limit, similar to Bruins or the Avs, apparently had.

This simply isn't true. The guys only had a career high of 43 points, and sure his potential is through the roof, but the reason this type of contract is signed now is because the risk/reward for both player and franchise is met somewhere in the middle for the scenarios of him either living up to his potential and the contract being a bargain or him falling short of expectations and the player making more than he should if he signed later. MacKinnon did the same thing and that's why his contract was so low, but then he took max value the moment he could.

Caufield simply isn't getting more money until he literally puts up the points over a regular basis. If he wanted more money, he would have had to waited or got a bridge contract, but he valued securing the money now as more important than risking underperforming just to see if he could get a mil or two more. I don't think it has anything to do with some plan amongst players to sign for less and build a contender. That contract is still huge, and it's more than fair value given the circumstances and timing.

 

[KingsHockey24]

Local reporter and frequent Sportsnet contributor Ken Wiebe suggested Jansen Harkins is likely included. Signed on a two way played mostly in the AHL this year but is good enough as a cheap 4th liner for a cap conscious team like LA. Honestly he was probably too good to play in the AHL I'm not sure why he was sent down.

Is he tough?

 

[Royale With Cheese]

So, from Friedman and other sources, it sounds like it includes the following players

To Kings
Dubois
Harkins

To Jets
Arvidsson
Iafallo
Vilardi

It's more than this because even if the Jets buy out Wheeler, I don't think they can't fit those contract under the cap (if I look at Capfriendly). Someone else is going to the Kings or the Jets are trading another player to another team.

Pagnotta's audio interview on TSN this morning said he thinks the framework of an LA deal is done. It's the PLD / LA contract we're waiting on.

He mentioned 3 assets going from the Jets and 4 coming from LA (Vilardi, Iafallo, "another young forward" and possibly a draft pick).

I'm speculating Harkins from the Jets because I think it was Freidmann or Ken Weibe that said that, and maybe Logan Stanley?

 

[Demigod Gloves]

Habs, always a bridesmaid and never a bride.

24 times kings

 

[kinghock]

I think you are on to something. Likely take out the 18oa and add some prospect like Harkin’s. After all it is Montreal circling back to the Jets, not the other way around. Jets already have a great offer in the bank from LA.

I do not think you can call 26 years old player prospect anymore.
I would call him AHL player.

 

[pezdawg]

yes, ppl love to LARP as NHL GMs on this web page

*puts his Kevin Cheveldayoff tunic on for m’lady*

 

[MardyBum]

Pagnotta's audio interview on TSN this morning said he thinks the framework of an LA deal is done. It's the PLD / LA contract we're waiting on.

He mentioned 3 assets going from the Jets and 4 coming from LA (Vilardi, Iafallo, "another young forward" and possibly a draft pick).

I'm speculating Harkins from the Jets because I think it was Freidmann or Ken Weibe that said that, and maybe Logan Stanley?

Any chance ya have a link to the audio?

 

[Halakitlikethat]

Is it normal behaviour around here that posters refer to themselves as if they are actually making decisions? I didn’t know the Canadiens had 86 different GMs who all post on HFboards

You see it all the time on here like these people work for the teams .

“We aren’t interested in….”
“ we aren’t trading…”

It’s not just Habs fans that do it

 

[CanadienShark]

I think you are on to something. Likely take out the 18oa and add some prospect like Harkin’s. After all it is Montreal circling back to the Jets, not the other way around. Jets already have a great offer in the bank from LA.

I think you're on something.

 

[Bond]

Habs fans will be relentless if PLD goes to Montreal and Dvorak is the centerpiece lol

 

[tbcwpg]

Is he tough?

He's not a fighter, if that's what you mean. He's no "tougher" or softer than the average NHL player.

 

[waitin425]

Habs fans will be relentless if PLD goes to Montreal and Dvorak is the centerpiece lol

 

[FrankMTL]

WTF, just trade him to LA and end it.

 

[Little Psycho]

Already giving up Vilardi and AI is more than enough for him, don’t think they need to add a prospect for PDL + whomever

 

[Heldig]

its gonna be a bunch of second grade assets like Harris Farrell a late first or whatever else

Probably not.

 

[tbcwpg]

Habs fans will be relentless if PLD goes to Montreal and Dvorak is the centerpiece lol

I might just have to take a break from watching Jets games if that happens haha.

 

[Hunter368]

Maybe Habs rejected Jets ask? All indications are Habs would be interested in PLD as a UFA, not at the cost of assets whatever they may be, that they don't want to part with.

Repeated rumors are the Habs have been interested in PLD last summer and this summer........Chevy is the seller, so until he is happy with any teams offer he has refused them included clearly the Habs offers to-date. Jets don't care where he goes, they only care about the best price the market will give. We shall see in the next couple days what that price likely is. No one is suggesting PLD will return a kings ransom, but the old Dvorak & Fl 1st is borderline not even positive value so clearly that isn't good enough.

 

[Lt Dan]

Yeah, probably. He also requested a trade and has been buried in the AHL.

FYI, I like him. He's got a lot of energy, he's fast, has a good shot, good defensively. He just can't finish for some reason.

Lol. Sounds just like Austin Wagner

 

[Vukotal Recall]

I can see this as a public relations move from Habs. There are almost no young Quebecois stars left in the league, let alone centers, and the media here will roast them if there isn't at least the perception they are trying.

 

[Hunter368]

Pagnotta's audio interview on TSN this morning said he thinks the framework of an LA deal is done. It's the PLD / LA contract we're waiting on.

He mentioned 3 assets going from the Jets and 4 coming from LA (Vilardi, Iafallo, "another young forward" and possibly a draft pick).

I'm speculating Harkins from the Jets because I think it was Freidmann or Ken Weibe that said that, and maybe Logan Stanley?

yeh like PLD (good 2C), Harkins (4th line guy with 3rd line potential) and Stanley (6/7 Dman)

Love Vilardi

Lafallo is a decent middle six forward on a fair contract

Curious what the forward and pick is from LA if true

Fun times

 

[MardyBum]

Habs fans will be relentless if PLD goes to Montreal and Dvorak is the centerpiece lol

You seem to not understand that Dvorak, even if he happens to be a part of the trade, is not the centerpiece. He's a cap move.

Jansen Harkins if he goes as part of a PLD trade to LA isn't the centerpiece.

Florida's 1st >>> Dvorak.

 

[FerrisRox]

Most Jets fans just want people to use common sense when posting offers, Dvorak & Fl 1st isn't even arguable positive value,

In a thread with a staggering amount of jaw-dropingly out-to-lunch takes, this one tops them all.

Are you actually suggesting that if the Canadiens were to trade Christian Dvorak and Florida's 1st round draft pick in the 2023 draft, that package would have negative value?

That may not only be the dumbest thing I've seen in this really, really dumb thread, but it's quite possibly the single dumbest take I have ever heard at HFBoards.

Wow.

Just wow.

 

[Jee]

Is it normal behaviour around here that posters refer to themselves as if they are actually making decisions? I didn’t know the Canadiens had 86 different GMs who all post on HFboards

Are you new to message boards? legit question

 

[Royale With Cheese]

Any chance ya have a link to the audio?

For the life of me, I cannot find it. It was definitely there this morning, audio only.