Guy plays hard/well about 30% of the time, and not enough to justify that contract. As a Jet fan, I am grateful he decided he didn’t want to play in Winnipeg and even more grateful to Rob Blake for generously accommodating the Jets.
Pierre Luc Dubois explains for his poor performance in L.A.
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Raccoon Jesus
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Bud you called Kuemper a trashcan get out of here with the sanctimonious self-righteous bullshit
Neil Racki
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The guy just turned 26 and is already hated in 4 NHL cities lmao (and none of the hate is for dirty plays/injuring players). That's a crazy thing to accomplish this early in your career.
kylbaz
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Those numbers are on a team playing well, where there is presumably some motivation and energy to carry driftwood like him. If that tails off...........well you know what happens to driftwood.
I know the stat watchers will still shit on him but he’s been much better so far. He passes the eye test and the stats will follow He’s a solid two way 2C with good size and compliments that roster well. His compete level has been much, much higher. It’s still early but it’s looking like a good aquisition.
I also know it’s the most cliche thing to say on here now but I’ll say it that in a few years when the cap goes up, his contract won’t look bad at all. He’s probably a 6-6.5m player now. I’d much rather overpay by a couple million for potential than have someone like Darnell Nurse on the roster at his cap hit. They got him for a cap dump goalie too
I also know it’s the most cliche thing to say on here now but I’ll say it that in a few years when the cap goes up, his contract won’t look bad at all. He’s probably a 6-6.5m player now. I’d much rather overpay by a couple million for potential than have someone like Darnell Nurse on the roster at his cap hit. They got him for a cap dump goalie too
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Raccoon Jesus
We were right there
Melkor
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I mean when Duber starts to look like a trashcan out there nobody's gonna mince words on that lol. But he really hasn't. I guess everybody just eagerly waits for that to happen .I don't disagree
You can't have it both ways though
I did like him in the start in Winnipeg then he sort of gave up and got lazy quick. Vilardi has been great for us, 7 goals so far , PLDs current pace for the season. . Iafallo as a good 4th liner er). We lucked out there, and happy for kings to move on from him since that’s my other team 
Ovechkins Wodka
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PLD has been good so far. Hes not needed to score goals.
He is the center for one of the top 2nd lines in the league and likes to play shut down minutes against other teams top lines.
He is the center for one of the top 2nd lines in the league and likes to play shut down minutes against other teams top lines.
I did like him in the start in Winnipeg then he sort of gave up and got lazy quick. Vilardi has been great for us, 7 goals so far , PLDs current pace for the season. . Iafallo as a good 4th liner er). We lucked out there, and happy for kings to move on from him since that’s my other team
Cool, its nice you like Vilardi and Iafallo. And its cool that Kings got rid off a contract they were disgusted about. Both your teams are western conference so dont mind either of them having a great season!
And this next one is not directed to you, just generally;
While Jets are dominating the world right now. Kings are sitting at the top of their division. Caps have suprised everyone with a nice start.
Cant we all just glamour the win-win-win situation of all time for the brief moment. If (and when) you all are right it wont last for long and we Caps-fans will have grumpy times looking Kings and Jets go for a play-offs run while we are missing out all the fun both ways (playoffs and Hagens). Cant we have nice things just for a little time?
Get back to laughing at us when we burn and crash with the tank commander PLD. Right now it just seems a bit petty to keep ranting for a guy who is still doing quite well with his new team. Anyone who watched Kuznetsov last couple years for their teams 2C should understand our excitement.
We will have to see how he does long term, if this showing for the Caps remains consistent over a season. I recall how he looked like a beast in Jets 1st playoff game against Vegas and then disappeared for the rest of the series. If he has matured and gotten past that to give a consistent effort then the Caps will have done OK.Cool, its nice you like Vilardi and Iafallo. And its cool that Kings got rid off a contract they were disgusted about. Both your teams are western conference so dont mind either of them having a great season!
And this next one is not directed to you, just generally;
While Jets are dominating the world right now. Kings are sitting at the top of their division. Caps have suprised everyone with a nice start.
Cant we all just glamour the win-win-win situation of all time for the brief moment. If (and when) you all are right it wont last for long and we Caps-fans will have grumpy times looking Kings and Jets go for a play-offs run while we are missing out all the fun both ways (playoffs and Hagens). Cant we have nice things just for a little time?
Get back to laughing at us when we burn and crash with the tank commander PLD. Right now it just seems a bit petty to keep ranting for a guy who is still doing quite well with his new team. Anyone who watched Kuznetsov last couple years for their teams 2C should understand our excitement.
Melkor
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Pure shutdown centers don't get paid 8.5m He's going to have to score to make the contract viable long term.
You’re joking but in the middle of last season we had a team affiliated media outlet unironically write a whole article about how PLD was actually good because his “rebounds generated per 60” were higher than Auston Matthews.
Ovechkins Wodka
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Not sure what either of those things have to do with what I said. If he scores 30-40 points and plays tough minutes thats not worth 8.5m long term.
Ovechkins Wodka
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If we make the playoffs and Ovie gets the record who is to say thats not worth 8.5? And we didnt make that contract. Rob Blake did, And he took a huge salary dump to get rid of it. And its paying off in spades
TLEH
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You were saying he doesn't need to score goals. In this salary cap world if you're making 8.5m until 2031 you're going to have to score goals too.
I mean short term like this season yeah of course their roster is set, the dollars work, and team is playing great. No issues with that point, but if you're making that kind of money you just have to score or your a problem for your team long term.
Bender Duster
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I’m no advanced stats guy, but I would assume that would be at least partially because Matthews’s shots often go in the net and don’t bounce off the goalie’s logo?
