Pierre Luc Dubois explains for his poor performance in L.A.

[Roshi]

its short sample size and i figure all can go downhill quite fast with PLD, but so far im really excited with his presence.

His been quite snakebitten with points production and could easily be well above ppg. But as far as he keeps doing stuff at this level, the production will follow aswell.

We’ll wait to see how it turns out, but if he can maintain this level it will be cornerstone move for the Caps for their re-tool. All fingers and toes crossed!

Was also nice to see Kuemper have a nice start with the Kings. Lets hope he rebounds from the injury well and it turns out to be a win-win trade. That would be fun outcome given how much s*it both players got when the deal was done.

 

[Shark Finn]

Isn’t PLD’s only goal this year an empty netter? This isn’t some redemption story, he’s still grossly overpaid trash until proven otherwise.

That's a lovely avatar, I must say.

 

[Uncle Scrooge]

How is it not a surprise? Everyone wrote this guy off years ago.

The guy had a good rookie year and after that 3x 60+ point seasons, and production-wise bounced back from a terrible first year with the Jets as well. It's not like he can't play. Combined with the noise around him and embarrassment of last year it would've been more surprising and concerning if he looked disinterested out of the gates with the Caps.

 

[kylbaz]

Guy played one season for the Kings, and Kings fans are being this pissy about him in this thread? I get the Columbus fans and to some extent Jets fans but Kings? Wtf

Not even Flyers fans were this bitter after the whole Gauthier ordeal.

Kinda hilarious ngl

It's hilarious a team paid him $8m, expected him to be good and was one of the worst on the team? Of course fans are choked

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

Yeah he was once again absolutely terrible, rocking a 78.98 xGF% 5-on-5 and 85.27 xGF% overall.

66.14 xGF% on the season, 14th in the entire league.

Keep grasping at straws though.

This is basically exactly how we started last year with PLD

when winning no one is REALLY complaining but

'the production isn't there but the advanced stats are, he's great at gaining the line and getting the pucks to the net and it's only a matter of time before he and laf and kaliyev go on a heater'

It never comes, the team streak cools off, and suddenly the cracks show

problem is he's getting paid like PLD when he's really just French Canadian Nick Bjugstad.

It's hilarious a team paid him $8m, expected him to be good and was one of the worst on the team? Of course fans are choked

It's even less that

and more what we had to give up to earn the right for that shitty contract

AND having to hear it from other fans around the league nonstop as if we wanted him and were defending him when if you go back to the trade thread or anything after we were already pissed

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

I noticed him last night, but not a lot. It seemed to be more he got caught up in the game rather than he inserted himself into the game.

 

[SeanMoneyHands]

Looks like this trade is working out for both teams. Caps coach is very happy with Dubois play so far and Keumper is back from injury and will run the net in LA.

 

[stephenball]

Looks like this trade is working out for both teams. Caps coach is very happy with Dubois play so far and Keumper is back from injury and will run the net in LA.

Hopefully he does well for them and PLD keeps doing well for us. I like the Kings and I like Kuemper, so hopefully everything can work out.

PLD isn’t showing up on the score sheet that much but he’s been in the middle of a lot of good stuff happening. I’m very happy with him so far, and the points are going to come.

 

[Caps8112]

Even if PLD reverts to what everyone has said he wont be hurting the team as much as Kuemper was/would. If LA's plan is to go on a playoff run with Kuemper they will be disappointed. Guy is cooked and he will show it eventually.

 

[Lt Dan]

Even if PLD reverts to what everyone has said he wont be hurting the team as much as Kuemper was/would. If LA's plan is to go on a playoff run with Kuemper they will be disappointed. Guy is cooked and he will show it eventually.

Kings fan here

I would never (foolishly) attempt to understand our management's thinking, but I think the trade was more about

1- Getting Pretty Lazy Dude the f*** off the team (70%)
2- Cap flexibility (15%)
3- A stop gap until Portillo and Slukynsky are ready (15%)

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

Yeah I think it's very fair to say both teams are relatively happy and got what they want, no issues here and believe it or not I'm rooting for PLD the human. I just think there are a lot of premature victory laps because we've seen this movie before AND I'd also like a little bit of schaudenfraude for those folks

 

[Lt Dan]

Here is gift for the future for you Caps fans
Give it a good home

 

[SettlementRichie10]

Neither Kemper nor PLD are the kinds of players/contracts you want on a contending team.

Good thing that neither Washington nor LA are contending teams.

 

[gvineq]

I dunno, he seems to recognize his weakness here, that he gets confused easily in grey areas. Seems like it just wasn’t a great fit. You have to wonder though, at what point is it on you as a player to break through that and perform? Probably at 8.5 mil.

Disagree recognizing his weakness would mean him going to the coach and saying he doesn't understand what's expected of him. Remember, he had 2 coaches in LA not just one. Most of us do better when expectations are laid out in a clear fashion. however as adults it's our job to seek out the clarification we need. Especially if it's public knowledge the coach was fired due to the team underperforming.

Also, a big part of his issue in LA was the perceived zero effort. for example, he had multiple games in the playoff series against Edmonton without registering a single shot on goal.

Is he saying he needed to be told to shoot the puck on goal in an attempt to score? Why does he think teams are paying him? because he looks pretty in uniform?

I did read where Washington's coach has had several long conversations with him already so it sounds like they are off to a good start.

I don't dislike the guy. I was confused on how he could make his self so invisible for so many games? Like after watch a game I would have to look at stats to see if he even played. I'd routinely see him at over 10 mins of ice time but no shots or penalties, maybe a hit or two. What I I hated was all the talent that was moved for him but that's not his fault. I do agree it does sound like the coaches did a horrible job for not just asking why he was underperforming?

As a Kings fan I just hope that trade become a lesson on what not to do because it set the organization back at least 5 years. Again not just PLD's fault.

 

[stephenball]

What people forget is that in case he turns back into a pumpkin the Caps fans are already vaccinated against the bad feelings after so many years with Kuznetsov.

 

[Nsjohnson]

I get it.

But I like a good comeback story so I am rooting for the guy. I hope he puts up 70 points.

 

[benfranklin]

Kindof crazy this thread is still going strong.

 

[zappa4ever]

I get it.

But I like a good comeback story so I am rooting for the guy. I hope he puts up 70 points.

Seems you're one of the very few.

Lots of HF'ers here really really really want to see him fail for the "I told you so" factor

 

[Lucas Hood]

Lol, people are so butthurt over PLD. This thread going while he's playing well and his team is winning and caps fans are happy with him is some next level pettiness cringe. If you want to crap on him so bad at least wait until his play warrants it.

Here's an idea - blame Rob Blake for bringing in a player that everyone could see had nowhere to fit in on the Kings roster and with their system before he even played a single game and who is now going through deja vu with Fiala.

PLD has been a big part of the Caps hot start by centering their best line and providing a ton of pace, size, defensive awareness that has allowed McMichael and Wilson to have the best starts in their careers. Was excellent shutting down Vegas and Dallas back to back which gave the Caps the swagger for this hot start coming off of losing their opening game to New Jersey. Given that he was trades for a complete cap dump in Kuemper who had close to Jack Campbell level negative trade value and he effectively costs 3.25 for the next 3 seasons and has been playing at 2x that value so far, he's arguably been the biggest improvement to the roster this offseason even with the Chychrun acquisition, as Chychrun actually cost a useful player.

 

[Oilslick941611]

Kindof crazy this thread is still going strong.

dont worry, it'll get bumped again if he comes 5 games with no points or something as well

 

[benfranklin]

dont worry, it'll get bumped again if he comes 5 games with no points or something as well

lol right. I find it funny that for a guy who is an average middle 6er at this point in hs career, albeit overpaid, is staying on the front page here, but I guess im helping it stay a thing now.

 

[SeanMoneyHands]

Im now a believer that LA getting rid of Dubois made both teams better.

LA is 3rd in NHL standings, yes you read that right, 3rd in the NHL.
And Washington is 9th in NHL standings.

The Jets were instantly better once they traded Dubois and now LA is repeating that. I think it's safe to say that Dubois is a cancer.

 

[Kuz]

Im now a believer that LA getting rid of Dubois made both teams better.

LA is 3rd in NHL standings, yes you read that right, 3rd in the NHL.
And Washington is 9th in NHL standings.

The Jets were instantly better once they traded Dubois and now LA is repeating that. I think it's safe to say that Dubois is a cancer.

Number of game matters a lot early om. LAK have played many and Are actually behind WSH in point %. Caps where instantly better getting PLD.

 

[Monsieur Miz]

You'd think PLD f***ed everyone's mother in here with how obsessed they are with the guy. How is this thread still going?

 

[kylbaz]

Lol, people are so butthurt over PLD. This thread going while he's playing well and his team is winning and caps fans are happy with him is some next level pettiness cringe. If you want to crap on him so bad at least wait until his play warrants it.

Here's an idea - blame Rob Blake for bringing in a player that everyone could see had nowhere to fit in on the Kings roster and with their system before he even played a single game and who is now going through deja vu with Fiala.

PLD has been a big part of the Caps hot start by centering their best line and providing a ton of pace, size, defensive awareness that has allowed McMichael and Wilson to have the best starts in their careers. Was excellent shutting down Vegas and Dallas back to back which gave the Caps the swagger for this hot start coming off of losing their opening game to New Jersey. Given that he was trades for a complete cap dump in Kuemper who had close to Jack Campbell level negative trade value and he effectively costs 3.25 for the next 3 seasons and has been playing at 2x that value so far, he's arguably been the biggest improvement to the roster this offseason even with the Chychrun acquisition, as Chychrun actually cost a useful player.

This is the exact same situation as LA last year. They were winning and either ignored his bad play or said he was playing good. Once they started losing, the true frustrations came out. No one in their right mind can say they are happy with an $8M player who has one goal in 12 games and is on pace for 7 goals and 48 points.