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Been pretty darn good. He's filling in a bottom six role very effectively.

Has the potential to be one of those very important playoffs performers who can do it all and thrive during playoff style hockey.

Has lifted his foot off the hitting pedal over the past few games which is a bit annoying. But on the other hand you can clearly see him frustrate opponents and limit their options with his very long stick. It's hard to adjust to that because most players aren't that tall. Causes a great number of o zone turnovers as a result of opposition thinking they have enough distance between player and puck only for a very large stick to swoop up the puck
 
Yes he has. I don't think he's going back down.

I've always liked his size and skating, but did wonder if he would put up decent numbers, he has to this point anyway. Thommie Bergman found another in the 7th round it seems.
 
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I like him so far. He certainly doesnt look out of place in the nhl. He has such an odd stride, watching him the way he skates makes it seem like hes moving slow even though hes actually flying.
 
Once AJ gets back there is not enough cap room for Engvall (he makes $925k). Even if Toronto sends Spezza down ($700k) Toronto will still be over the cap.

The only way to keep Engvall on the team is to trade someone(s) who's cap value adds up to $925k. Meaning you will have to trade anyone in the top6 or a combination of 2 players in the bottom6

Engvall will be sent down once AJ is off IR
 
Orfieus said:
Once AJ gets back there is not enough cap room for Engvall (he makes $925k). Even if Toronto sends Spezza down ($700k) Toronto will still be over the cap.

The only way to keep Engvall on the team is to trade someone(s) who's cap value adds up to $925k. Meaning you will have to trade anyone in the top6 or a combination of 2 players in the bottom6

Engvall will be sent down once AJ is off IR
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We're a better team with Engvall than AJ. We're overdue for a trade, we still have Agostino and Korshkov to take looks at.
 
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Orfieus said:
Once AJ gets back there is not enough cap room for Engvall (he makes $925k). Even if Toronto sends Spezza down ($700k) Toronto will still be over the cap.

The only way to keep Engvall on the team is to trade someone(s) who's cap value adds up to $925k. Meaning you will have to trade anyone in the top6 or a combination of 2 players in the bottom6

Engvall will be sent down once AJ is off IR
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Why can't you trade Ceci #6 for Liljegren another #6.

Cap space solved.
 
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Love his game.


Not a fan of him as a top 6er though. Let him hold down the bottom 6 like he's been doing.

If Korshkov works out our third line will be beast.
 
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The cap looks to be the only thing in the way from him having played his last AHL game. Will be interesting as well to see if he ultimately settles in at centre or left wing. I'd guess the latter provides the better opportunity. The versatility couldn't hurt though.
 
I seriously think AJ will be the odd man out when the dust settles. We can insert various options on LW and not to undermine him he can score, our top 2 pairing c's and rw's could acclimatize with anyone and still work. Rather keep Kap and his speed and big game prowess tbh, even though rw is rather stacked.

Ceci does have some value out there, so anyone thinking we are totally stuck, not the case at all. Everyone needs D and many would take a shot. Ceci at 4.5 and johnsson at 3.4 is almost 8 million. AJ should fetch something, proven youngish scoring with term. With a little creativity that buys a backup goalie, a solid stay at home d and maybe even a big gritty winger for the bottom six/slide in top six to keep opponents honest. It's do-able.
 
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I seriously think AJ will be the odd man out when the dust settles. We can insert various options on LW and not to undermine him he can score, our top 2 pairing c's and rw's could acclimatize with anyone and still work. Rather keep Kap and his speed and big game prowess tbh, even though rw is rather stacked.

Ceci does have some value out there, so anyone thinking we are totally stuck, not the case at all. Everyone needs D and many would take a shot. Ceci at 4.5 and johnsson at 3.4 is almost 8 million. AJ should fetch something, proven youngish scoring with term. With a little creativity that buys a backup goalie, a solid stay at home d and maybe even a big gritty winger for the bottom six/slide in top six to keep opponents honest. It's do-able.
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We've never really seen AJ play in Keefe system yet, for all we know he is going to be a stud

... that being said he is very much the odd man out and if someone has to be traded I think it should be him (obviously after Ceci but Ceci has negative trade value)
 
Orfieus said:
Once AJ gets back there is not enough cap room for Engvall (he makes $925k). Even if Toronto sends Spezza down ($700k) Toronto will still be over the cap.

The only way to keep Engvall on the team is to trade someone(s) who's cap value adds up to $925k. Meaning you will have to trade anyone in the top6 or a combination of 2 players in the bottom6

Engvall will be sent down once AJ is off IR
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The goat can go
 
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There's absolutely no way Engvall gets sent down. Keefe loves him and he has shown he 100% belongs.

Its def gonna be interesting to see what happens when AJ gets back. I would be shocked if Engvall gets sent down.

I would have to think GOAT is the odd man out in the scenario. Waived or traded is my guess.

Hyman - Tavares - Marner
Johnsson - Mathews - Nylander
Mikheyev - Kerfoot - Kapanen
Moore - Engvall - Timashov
Spezza
 
I really surprised that Engvall looks so good in the NHL. He's been a slow developer, never a high scorer in any league. But in the NHL he looks puck savvy as well as can play a defensive game.
Until the Leafs know Liljegren or anybody can replace Ceci (who has playing OK), Leafs aren't going to thrust an unknown onto the defence and hope. It's not even midway, still a good change of injuries and Liljegren or Sandin still might be Leafs this season.
 
I think the order of likeliness is:

Ceci trade (either replace with a cheaper dman as he is playing on our bottom pairkng anyways or trade for peanuts and put in Liljegren). At 1 year he doesnt have negative valur IMO, but he doesnt have very much at all.

2 of Tima, Goat, or Spezza sent down to make enough cap room

Engvall sent down

AJ/Kap traded


AJ and Kap are important top 9 depth players and people are forgetting a bit about how good AJ was last year. Pretty much everybody looked bad under Babcock and AJ is only a sophomore. Most people said they would prefer AJ over Kap after last year and 30 games is too quick to change your mind on a young player's upside.
 
I think everyone agrees one of Johnsson, Kapanen or Ceci gets traded.

IMO it should be Johnsson or Kapanen and not Ceci.

1) Johnsson or Kapanen would return assets back which is very essential.
2) We have players that can replace one of them.
3) Ceci has been good as the bottom-pairing RHD. He can PK as well, something we shouldn't force Lilijegren to do right away if he replaces Ceci. Teams will take his contract since it's not bad and he's a decent depth option.
 
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Can't they send down timashov and trade Spezza? Spezza sucks, I don't care what people on here say. As leafs fans we're way too quick to see a big name and act like it's the same player from 5 years ago in their prime. Did the same overhyping when Marleau signed here.
 
Surprised so many want AJ traded. A 20 goal, 40 point rookie for 3.whatever million is a great, team friendly deal. That is someone that is
Very valuable to a team with as many overpaid players as the leafs. Send down tima and gauthier. We need to ice the best roster possible to make the playoffs
 
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