Other Sports: Philadelphia Phillies: The Road To .500 Continues Into Red October (2024 Edition)

Flybynite

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Soto's 15/$765m has a $75M upfront signing bonus and also an opt-out after 5 years if somehow he thinks he can make even more money at age 31

The $765m is $325m more than the 15yr/$440m extension the Nationals offered before trading him in 2022.. I'm also going to assume the Nations contract probably had deferrals as well since most of their bigger deals did.
 
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Gregor Samsa

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I still think they’ll be a threat of some level. Some type of shakeup will be good for the team. It feels like they were a bit overconfident the last couple playoffs. The starters will still be high end (hopefully Suarez is fixed), the bats obviously have potential but they can’t live on boom or bust.
 

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I still think they’ll be a threat of some level. Some type of shakeup will be good for the team. It feels like they were a bit overconfident the last couple playoffs. The starters will still be high end (hopefully Suarez is fixed), the bats obviously have potential but they can’t live on boom or bust.

A shakeup is necessary or their not making the playoffs let alone contending.

People forget how bad they were in the 2nd half. Theyve lost their way.

Topper needs to go too but that wony happen yet.
 
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Gregor Samsa

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A shakeup is necessary or their not making the playoffs let alone contending.

People forget how bad they were in the 2nd half. Theyve lost their way.

Topper needs to go too but that wony happen yet.
I’m hoping they get knocked down a peg. They were at their best when they were underdogs and hungry. They became the talk of the baseball world but ran into one of the best pitching teams ever. They were about to go to their 2nd straight World Series the next year and were actually strongly favored. We know how that went. This year they started out red hot and we all know how that ended as well. They need a gut check. It felt like they became a bit entitled despite not winning a title. Hopefully they come out on a mission next year and really dig in when it matters
 

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Expensive DH but this team had trouble with last year’s Mets lineup. Add the most well rounded hitter in the game and it’ll be hell getting through it.
 
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Look, as a Phils fan I don't really care too much because I know they are one of the few teams where money really isn't that big a deal, but eventually MLB is going to need a hard salary cap and hard salary floor. Its not healthy at all for the sport to have individual players making more per year than some teams have in their entire payroll, and if you're going to just let the big market teams spend out of control like this, its going to kill the league. And lets not pretend that MLB is in a healthy state, its actively sliding back in the national scene behind both the NFL and NBA right now, and having deals like this that only causes more of a power imbalance, especially during a time when they're talking about wanting to expand.... They're not set up for future success at all anymore.
 

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I will be honest I was a 100% on board with breaking the bank on Soto but I do believe this will backfire spectacularly for the Mets as it always does.
 
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Is this guy any good?
Pre injury yes.
Post? umm.....

The Phils are making a bet on a bounceback. Romano, 32 in February, just finished a frustrating and injury-marred season with the Blue Jays but was their closer for three years prior to that. The righty saved 95 games for the Jays from 2021 to 2023, tossing 186 innings with a 2.37 earned run average. He struck out 30.3% of batters faced in that time while giving out walks at a 9.2% clip and getting grounders on 42.3% of balls in play.

But 2024 was mostly a lost season for him. He started the season on the injured list due to some right elbow inflammation and never seemed to be fully healthy. He went on and off the IL throughout the year, making just 15 appearances with a 6.59 ERA. His 21% strikeout rate in that small sample was not only below his previous work but also below league average.
 

deadhead

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Always good to stock up on these kinds of guys going into ST.

Some of these deals are you can send me to the minors until "X" date (usually around June 1 or so) then I'm a free agent if I'm not called up.

I think that's how they landed Hoffman.
 

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