Other Sports: Philadelphia Phillies: The Road To .500 Continues Into Red October (2024 Edition)

Kermit the Prog

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Nobody expects the triple play leaving Ohtani on deck lol

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deadhead

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Painter injury was in spring training of 2023. Painter would have been pitching in the rotation last year, and this year if he hadn't gotten hurt sure... but to say they didn't come into 2024 knowing Painter wasn't an option at all would be ridiculous. BTW, the Phillies then had him 'rehab' a torn UCL for half the season and he didn't get surgery until almost August.

Also Abel was showing worrying signs last year. Not to the 'fall apart this year' extant for sure, but in a "wouldn't be the worst thing if they traded him now and got value if they added a starting piece to the MLB roster"

And all of that doesn't change where the Phillies were at the trade deadline and some teams were seemingly trying to give away back of the rotation guys. I'm not going to go back and look at AAV and compare it to the Phillies and what it would do... but it was IMO kinda obvious and many posters did say they needed to add a 5th starter just to not almost give away every 5th day.

They got lucky a couple starts with randos, but overall it's been a disaster.
They do have to worry about cap, Middleton is willing to spend, but the penalties start adding up, not just financial but lost LA bonus and draft picks - and they've just rebuilt the farm system - long-term contention requires a top ten system (b/c you need cheap starters to balance Harper, Turner, Wheeler, Nola contracts).

So it's balancing marginal improvement this season v impact in the future.
Phillies are a team with the resources if run right to compete every season.

Dombrowski managed to strengthen the bullpen and bench without giving up much, basically swapped two pitching prospects and gave up a young 2B prospect who was blocked by two better prospects in Miller and Caba and Stott and Sosa on the NL roster.
 

Cody Webster

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I mean, I haven't been following the storm but you're right in that this probably should have been planned for.

Maybe it came out of nowhere heading into the path but I have my doubts.
This is from Monday morning, each line representing a different model...needless to say, they all pretty much agreed on the track


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Hurricane Helene coming onshore and possibly going to throw havoc in the Braves/Mets series lol.
Once again Manfred and the MLB looking like clowns. They knew about this hurrucane going that way for about 5 days so. I mean I did. They could have moved it to a neutral place or at the very least played a double header yesterday.
 
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LegionOfDoom91

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I don’t know how the Pirates have any fans, being cheap & incompetent (which they’ve generally been my entire existence on earth so far) is something truly hard to get behind.
 

Hollywood Cannon

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Looks like the Braves were protecting their gate revenue.

Officially postponed until Monday.

I guess Mets could in theory forfeit games if they’re already locked in a playoff spot but could be a big headache for them with no benefit.
 

DancingPanther

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Will be incredible when they completely insult Skenes, trade him during arb years, then he signs with the dodgers
 

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Austin Hays has been a disastrous acquisition. Brings NOTHING to the table.

Hays slips AGAIN! Dude is a f***ing bum. Gimme Weston Wilson back.
 

Flybynite

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The only hitter in the NL having a better September than Kyle Schwarber is Ohtani.

Schwarber 1.090 OPS, 193 wRC+ (with 10 HR)
Ohtani 1.180 OPS, 219 wRC+ (with 9 HR)
 

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