Other Sports: Philadelphia Phillies: The Road To .500 (2023 Edition)

[dragonoffrost]

And here I thought you were going to say it was because you had already developed a superstition, even though you knew it didn't matter. What kind of Baseball Guy even are you?

Baseball and Hockey guys are probably the most superstitious athletes

 

[Gregor Samsa]

Anyone but the Dodgers for winning the World Series

 

[landsbergfan]

Is there a scenario in which the USD doesn't decrease in value as estimated and years 11-20 are catastrophic for the Dodgers? I'm struggling a bit to understand why they'd opt for this sort of structure instead of a 10 year backloaded contract to where the AAV is actually $43-46MM.

It's no question the deal structure is much better for the Dodgers. No clue if it was the desired outcome for Ohtani too, but the structure does allow them to spend more now while he is on the team in order to win. His only financial benefit is the taxes he avoids by moving out of CA in 10 years.

I think the deferred contracts would be more popular if players were willing to do them.

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

It's no question the deal structure is much better for the Dodgers. No clue if it was the desired outcome for Ohtani too, but the structure does allow them to spend more now while he is on the team in order to win. His only financial benefit is the taxes he avoids by moving out of CA in 10 years.

I think the deferred contracts would be more popular if players were willing to do them.

The other potential financial benefit is that he's getting paid substantially more by accepting this type of deal structure.

I don't believe we've heard anything about what other teams were willing to offer so can't be sure.

 

[FLYguy3911]

Not everyone has $50 million in endorsements each year either to be able to defer payments.

He can apparently void the contract if Friedman or ownership change.

 

[wankstifier]

It's no question the deal structure is much better for the Dodgers. No clue if it was the desired outcome for Ohtani too, but the structure does allow them to spend more now while he is on the team in order to win. His only financial benefit is the taxes he avoids by moving out of CA in 10 years.

I think the deferred contracts would be more popular if players were willing to do them.

I think the Dodgers are one of a few teams with enough financial stability to commit to a 20 year contract with the majority of the money due in the final decade. I can't see this becoming popular across the league. Let's say that the estimate of real dollars owed is accurate--around $430MM. I think there are maybe 5 teams willing to pay that much to one player.

And, what if the the dollar unexpectedly stagnates? Like what if the actual value of the contract is closer to $700MM?

 

[wankstifier]

Not everyone has $50 million in endorsements each year either to be able to defer payments.

He can apparently void the contract if Friedman or ownership change.

I was wondering how that stipulation would have any teeth given the deferrals. He'd have to be at peak performance for that to be a serious concern for ownership.

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

 

[FLYguy3911]

Well they usually don't even get a meeting with these guys so this is good.

 

[DancingPanther]

Well they usually don't even get a meeting with these guys so this is good.

Exactly what I was going to say. When even is the last time they MET with a Japanese posting? Legitimately can't even remember one

 

[FLYguy3911]

Could also be a leverage play by his camp. Only a handful of teams are actually willing to give out big contracts anymore.

 

[JojoTheWhale]

Could also be a leverage play by his camp. Only a handful of teams are actually willing to give out big contracts anymore.

Yamamoto gets this and the Phillies get the whispers to remove the "doesn't sign Japanese guys" label.

 

[DancingPanther]

Yamamoto gets this and the Phillies get the whispers to remove the "doesn't sign Japanese guys" label.

I hate it here

 

[Flybynite]

 

[Flybynite]

 

[JojoTheWhale]

There's no way the Dodgers believe Margot is good enough to play every day, right? He's just walking money?

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

Dodgers doing all this just to get knocked out in the first round again.

 

[DancingPanther]

Oh look, the Dodgers

There's no way the Dodgers believe Margot is good enough to play every day, right? He's just walking money?

Nah, just the Rays molting their salary as they do every 5 years

 

[Flybynite]

Oh look, the Dodgers


Nah, just the Rays molting their salary as they do every 5 years

Yea. Margot was gonna get like $10m, plus a $2M option buy-out next year. Glasnow signed a super back-loaded deal because of injury so last season was like $5M and this year is $25m... The Rays are sending $4M in the trade. But still that's basically like almost $30M they will save in salary this year.

The Dodgers players are Pepiot (2nd year, no arbitration until after 2026) and Deluca(rookie, no arbitration until after 2027)

 

[Adam Warlock]

Topper gonna love him some Alvarado vs Freddy and Ohtani.

 

[wankstifier]

I’m just assuming Yamamoto is LA bound. They need him and I’m sure it’s the most attractive destination. I’d only be mad if he went to NY.

 

[BrindamoursNose]

The Mets were supposed to have these deep pockets weren't they?

 

[Halladay]

So was Yamamoto actually at the meeting or was this like how the 76ers met with LeBrons group but he actually wasn't there?

The Mets were supposed to have these deep pockets weren't they?

He's one of the wealthiest humans in the world. I believe he has alluded to not pissing off the other owners with absurd contracts though. They have spent money, just foolishly though (Scherzer and Verlander).

 

[BrindamoursNose]

He's one of the wealthiest humans in the world. I believe he has alluded to not pissing off the other owners with absurd contracts though. They have spent money, just foolishly though (Scherzer and Verlander).

Weird that this would be his stance when the Dodgers just gave out an absolutely absurd contract.

 

[landsbergfan]