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OT: Philadelphia Eagles (NFL): When You're Up, It's Never As Good As It Seems, And When You're Down, You Never Think You'll Be Up Again

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The way Heinicke celebrated getting that flag is what the NFL needs to fix moving forward. Players are relying on the refs too much to make calls like this. It's like the nba dealing with flopping but worse. The refs already have the power to completely control the outcome of any game and stuff like this gives them even more power.
 
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There was no excuse for them not to see the facemask on Goedert, handed them 3 points. it was so blatant. Just an annoying loss, cause it is a divisional game and who knows if that will come back to bite them. Just beat the Colts next week and Dallas and the Vikings play each other.
 
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flyershockey said:
They're not a terribly difficult team to attack. They play 2 high nickel all game and they lost the only guy in the middle capable of taking on double teams. Keep out of third and obvious and you can move the ball on them.
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Our ends seem to do not much either. Quinn is looking like a waste.
 
achdumeingute said:
This isn't a concern. We lost TOP hard. Offense barely had the ball.

This defense isn't good enough.
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DancingPanther said:
They ran 16 plays in the first half
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I’m saying he hurt something on that one catch very early on and was not heard from again. I think maybe I don't remember him even being targeted in the final three quarters.

That makes me worry about groin and hamstring.
 
Waking up still in awe about all that shit last night. Quez? You're unbelievable. Refs? Unbelievable. Graham? Unbelievable.

Hopefully today is the day we get to read the apology released by the NFL about the missed facemask. That'll make us all feel a lot better. It'll be water under the bridge after that
 
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Can I take my Hurts isn't the guy victory lap yet? (Didn't watch the game cause sick and was watching Youtubes) Sounds like it was hell and I'm kind of better off not knowing what happened.
 
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Bigtimefeed said:
The way Heinicke celebrated getting that flag is what the NFL needs to fix moving forward. Players are relying on the refs too much to make calls like this. It's like the nba dealing with flopping but worse. The refs already have the power to completely control the outcome of any game and stuff like this gives them even more power.
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I have no problem with him celebrating, he just won his team a game. He celebrated the same way, the WR celebrates getting a defensive PI call after looking at the refs. Whether you like it or not the correct call on the field was made (that time).

I have more problem with personal foul at the sideline call and face mask non call.

Refs contributed, but did not lose this game for the Eagles. Inability to adjust to the run, sloppiness, and turnovers (AJ and QW) cost them the game.
 
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Chinatown88 said:
Can I take my Hurts isn't the guy victory lap yet? (Didn't watch the game cause sick and was watching Youtubes) Sounds like it was hell and I'm kind of better off not knowing what happened.
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You didn't have to tell us you didn't watch given your initial question.

My biggest complaint last night about that last call is, where was the whistle? BG was coming off the edge, saw Heinecke trying to get up with no whistle blown and, like any defender who didn't see a player go down, went to finish the play. A whistle blown when he gave himself up prevents that from happening, but the f***in ref just stood there waiting for the personal foul to happen.

There's a lot of grey area where players are taking advantage of player safety rules to trick the defense into penalties or giving up on a play. Something needs to be done to close these f***ing loops up.
 
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Hollywood Cannon said:
Hey, remember how I said I won after that Smith TD?

Turns out I didn’t and I tied because of that last play. Have absolutely no clue how that one works but he got -14 receiving yards on the lateral. Finished with 39 yards.

We get one point for every ten yards.

This is pain.
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I had won and scored high points for the 3rd week in a row when Goedert made his last catch and run then lost on the bullshit facemask fumble. Needless to say I still hate that BJ with a burning passion this morning.
 
I don't like the "lost because of" stuff because it's too reductive. Hurts didn't play particularly well. He certainly wasn't the biggest problem or close to it.

Milton Williams looked much better inside next to a further inside Hargrave. That's part of what changed later in the game. I wish Williams would play inside like that more. What I do find weird is that Marvin Wilson never hit the field once they thankfully gave up on Tuipulotu. They needed some beef badly. LB play was terrible. Very surprised they didn't try to clean them off a bit.

I'll give you all a stat that illustrates both a major problem AND that Gannon understands it. In the 2.5 games since the Jordan Davis injury, the Eagles have played more Snaps in 5 man Fronts than they did in the 6.5 games before it. *Edit* While we're at it, playing so much of these fronts against Washington contributed to McLaurin doing what he did against Zones.
 
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I don't like the "lost because of" stuff because it's too reductive. Hurts didn't play particularly well. He certainly wasn't the biggest problem or close to it.

Milton Williams looked much better inside next to a further inside Hargrave. That's part of what changed later in the game. I wish Williams would play inside like that more. What I do find weird is that Marvin Wilson never hit the field once they thankfully gave up on Tuipulotu. They needed some beef badly. LB play was terrible. Very surprised they didn't try to clean them off a bit.

I'll give you all a stat that illustrates both a major problem AND that Gannon understands it. In the 2.5 games since the Jordan Davis injury, the Eagles have played more Snaps in 5 man Fronts than they did in the 6.5 games before it. *Edit* While we're at it, playing so much of these fronts against Washington contributed to McLaurin doing what he did against Zones.
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Is Davis alive? I never saw any type injury timeline

Edit: nice, a high ankle sprain on IR. Amazing news
 
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They obviously weren’t going undefeated but they picked a really bad spot to lay an egg. Basically coming off a bye against a bad team. Everything was in our favor.

Lame effort. Shouldn’t have been reading our press clippings so much.
 
Chinatown88 said:
Can I take my Hurts isn't the guy victory lap yet? (Didn't watch the game cause sick and was watching Youtubes) Sounds like it was hell and I'm kind of better off not knowing what happened.
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I think hurts was more or less fine. I don't have a problem with the INT he threw. He wasn't the problem.
 
JojoTheWhale said:
I don't like the "lost because of" stuff because it's too reductive. Hurts didn't play particularly well. He certainly wasn't the biggest problem or close to it.

Milton Williams looked much better inside next to a further inside Hargrave. That's part of what changed later in the game. I wish Williams would play inside like that more. What I do find weird is that Marvin Wilson never hit the field once they thankfully gave up on Tuipulotu. They needed some beef badly. LB play was terrible. Very surprised they didn't try to clean them off a bit.

I'll give you all a stat that illustrates both a major problem AND that Gannon understands it. In the 2.5 games since the Jordan Davis injury, the Eagles have played more Snaps in 5 man Fronts than they did in the 6.5 games before it. *Edit* While we're at it, playing so much of these fronts against Washington contributed to McLaurin doing what he did against Zones.
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Shrug, this game defensively felt like the Vikings d plan vs us in week two.

F press man coverage and let's let the zone eat us alive.
 
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