Other Sports: Philadelphia Eagles (NFL): Vegas, Baby! (2023 Regular Season)

[Hollywood Cannon]

 

[Chinatown88]

I will accept this one individual from the Swift subreddit.

 

[Beef Invictus]

I'm sure this time the nepotism will work.

 

[Beef Invictus]

Hah - I think that's a fair question. We have a HC who doesn't specialize in offense or defense. Doesn't primarily call plays. The best answer I can give is "He's a motivator" - which has its place, but holy s*** that does not inspire confidence in me after those awful, awful games SEA and beyond. I don't know if he lost the team, but it was dysfunctional AF. Could be his fault - I dunno. But I'm OK if they give him another year if Lurie/Howie determined there were other factors that caused it.

I don't think there's an established cycle yet - but I do think they can be in danger of beginning one soon. Hopefully they snap out of it with the coaching this year overall and we can all be happy.

"Team Motivator" was Rivera's main job. So, again, ominous for you people that they're talking to him. Risking overloading the intangibles while lacking tangibles.

 

[BrindamoursNose]

"Team Motivator" was Rivera's main job. So, again, ominous for you people that they're talking to him. Risking overloading the intangibles while lacking tangibles.

Preaching to the choir.

I want some killers in the coordinator position. Hell, I wanted Sirianni fired too. I'm not sure keeping him really is the best idea...but I can understand why they aren't.

 

[Chinatown88]

 

[BrindamoursNose]

::scratches Nick under the chin::

Lurie: "Good boy"

 

[Chicken N Raffls]

Saw a post today by ESPN how James Cook entered the 4th quarter with 67 rushing yards. O/u was 61.5.

Had 4 rushes in the 4th (-4, -3, 0, 1), ended the night with 61 yeards.

The post was lamenting his 4th quarter for everyone who bet the over.

It gives off extremely weird vibes when ESPN posts sh*t like that. Like, I don't care, let degenerate gamblern worry about that. It's weird when a sports news page is reporting that...

I never watch Flyers pre-game, but I'll usually watch the post-game for a bit to hear the reaction from TORTS.

There is a segment now exclusively devoted to gambling. It's very similar to those shows making pregame predictions, then revisiting them later to see who made out. But it's all based around some bet they favored earlier, and whether it hit.

I'm all for people being allowed to bet on whatever they want to, but the pushing of it is pretty gross

 

[FLYguy3911]

 

[Chinatown88]

*ItIsDone.gif*

 

[JojoTheWhale]

Hah - I think that's a fair question. We have a HC who doesn't specialize in offense or defense. Doesn't primarily call plays. The best answer I can give is "He's a motivator" - which has its place, but holy s*** that does not inspire confidence in me after those awful, awful games SEA and beyond. I don't know if he lost the team, but it was dysfunctional AF. Could be his fault - I dunno. But I'm OK if they give him another year if Lurie/Howie determined there were other factors that caused it.

I don't think there's an established cycle yet - but I do think they can be in danger of beginning one soon. Hopefully they snap out of it with the coaching this year overall and we can all be happy.

Sirianni is an offensive coach. His background is WRs/QBs/OC.

I agree that it appears he didn’t do much of note to pull them out of the tailspin this year, but we’re at a point where you can say that one of the 4 teams left in the playoffs has a HC that was an OC or DC at any point in the NFL. There have never been more roads to take that can get you to where you want to go. Some are just more difficult than others because it all hinges on how you replace assistants that get poached.

 

[Kermit the Prog]

Three years, three OCs, three DCs

 

[DancingPanther]

AHHHHHHHHHHH

 

[RockLobster]

Three years, three OCs, three DCs

Steichen shouldn't have been SO GOOD that he attracted HC attention. I would say that maybe we should've kept Steichen and ditched Sirianni last year, but no team will ever do that to a coach who just came up 4pts short of a SB win

 

[DancingPanther]

I never watch Flyers pre-game, but I'll usually watch the post-game for a bit to hear the reaction from TORTS.

There is a segment now exclusively devoted to gambling. It's very similar to those shows making pregame predictions, then revisiting them later to see who made out. But it's all based around some bet they favored earlier, and whether it hit.

I'm all for people being allowed to bet on whatever they want to, but the pushing of it is pretty gross

Yup. It reminds me of cigarettes

 

[RockLobster]

Also, I keep seeing people say "Wow, Nick really threw the the OC and DC under the bus, eh?"

And...yeah? I may think he deserves to be fired for how the season ended, and I may think that some of his sideline antics are a bit too much, but I don't begrudge him for moving on. I'd be more worried if he didn't move on from either of them given what we saw this year.

Even when we were 10-1 we were a paper tiger team (I'd said it a couple of times then). Brian Johnson was NOT doing a great job calling plays. Whether that was his fault, Nick's fault, or Jalen's fault, we don't really know. I think it's very plausible that Johnson was working within the confines of Nick's dumbass simplified offense, but even then he was absolute dogshit at calling plays.

Both Desai and Johnson deserved to be let go based on performance, unfortunately so did Nick but because of his title and the optics surrounding the team's recent success that ended up outweighing the need to fire him. So he'll go in to next season with his seat as hot as it could be, and I don't think he can afford a slow start (like hovering around .500 or barely above).

 

[Chinatown88]

Sirianni is an offensive coach. His background is WRs/QBs/OC.

I agree that it appears he didn’t do much of note to pull them out of the tailspin this year, but we’re at a point where you can say that one of the 4 teams left in the playoffs has a HC that was an OC or DC at any point in the NFL. There have never been more roads to take that can get you to where you want to go. Some are just more difficult than others because it all hinges on how you replace assistants that get poached.

Kiper has Fuaga in his newest mock.

 

[BrindamoursNose]

Sirianni is an offensive coach. His background is WRs/QBs/OC.

I agree that it appears he didn’t do much of note to pull them out of the tailspin this year, but we’re at a point where you can say that one of the 4 teams left in the playoffs has a HC that was an OC or DC at any point in the NFL. There have never been more roads to take that can get you to where you want to go. Some are just more difficult than others because it all hinges on how you replace assistants that get poached.

I don't disagree with the 2nd part, but I just want to say I know Sirianni truly does specialize on the offensive side of the ball - I was more so just commenting that I'm not sure he's very effective at it. He doesn't seem to call plays, hasn't shown a ton of creativity to get out of offensive ruts. The fact that we're obsessing over getting a very strong OC doesn't inspire a ton of confidence in me.

Like you're saying, I think you can totally win with a Sirianni - but I'm not stoked if he has to be the most frequent signal caller. Just my opinion of course.

 

[Taijuan Fedotov]

Three years, three OCs, three DCs

Four, four, and four this time next year if the replacements are any good (or horrible tbh).

 

[BrindamoursNose]

Alright now that Brian Johnson is likely out, who do we want at OC?

 

[RockLobster]

Alright now that Brian Johnson is likely out, who do we want at OC?

My buddy said they should go get Brian Griese just to f*** with SF.

Can you imagine it?

"We'd have won the SB if Griese wasn't interviewing for and prepping himself to be the Eagles next OC...."

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

Alright now that Brian Johnson is likely out, who do we want at OC?

Chip Kelly.

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

This will end well.

 

[Rebels57]

This will end well.

Johnson had to go, but I am guessing Nick was just as much to blame for the awful play-calling as Johnson and people feel like Nick threw Johnson under the bus.

 

[Chinatown88]

This will end well.