Hopkins hit significantly harder than Waters to me. Waters just got the headlines because of the dirtiness.
He also lived in my development when I was a kid. Super nice guy. He would stop to talk to us while we played street hockey.
No argument here. I mentioned Ray Ellis because, although fans of that mid-late 80s defense remember Andre, they don't remember Ray. I wonder if many remember Waters was a kick returner, too and, in fact, took a kickoff to the house his rookie year.