Other Sports: Philadelphia Eagles (NFL): Vegas, Baby! (2023 Regular Season)

[Jtown]

Not today, Satan.

i believe that day was jan 14 2023

 

[Jtown]

Jurgensen only had a few years here as a starter. If you’re going to weigh the positional value that heavily, fair enough. I just don’t for discussions like this.

Cox is up there too. I just think Lane’s peak lasted significantly longer.

(I’m really not sure how you had two objections and neither was Bednarik, but that’s ok too. )

Jalen and Jalen my friend. look how coy you can be you sly dog.

 

[Beef Invictus]

Jurgensen only had a few years here as a starter. If you’re going to weigh the positional value that heavily, fair enough. I just don’t for discussions like this.

Cox is up there too. I just think Lane’s peak lasted significantly longer.

(I’m really not sure how you had two objections and neither was Bednarik, but that’s ok too. )

Bednarik playing entire games and being super good on both sides of the ball should get him lots of points


Edit: That's a player I own in the QV, thank you very much

 

[Beef Invictus]

@JojoTheWhale brain game time.

Chuck Bednarik has an argument for best center of all time, and is a top 10 LB. If he were doing those things in the NFL today, what would he be paid?

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

Jurgensen only had a few years here as a starter. If you’re going to weigh the positional value that heavily, fair enough. I just don’t for discussions like this.

Cox is up there too. I just think Lane’s peak lasted significantly longer.

(I’m really not sure how you had two objections and neither was Bednarik, but that’s ok too. )

Bless your heart for not knowing that he meant Hurts with the first one.

 

[JojoTheWhale]

@JojoTheWhale brain game time.

Chuck Bednarik has an argument for best center of all time, and is a top 10 LB. If he were doing those things in the NFL today, what would he be paid?

Oh dear God. He's playing every Snap on offense and let's say 80% of defense? His weaknesses would be in coverage, so he'd have to get subbed out sometimes.

Bless your heart for not knowing that he meant Hurts with the first one.

I genuinely thought he meant Randall but was worried it was too unrealistic. As usual, I was dumb and wrong.

 

[Beef Invictus]

Oh dear God. He's playing every Snap on offense and let's say 80% of defense?



I genuinely thought he meant Randall but was worried it was too unrealistic. As usual, I was dumb and wrong.

Yeah, that's a fine ratio

 

[Beef Invictus]

I think I'm settling on 30 million a year. That's Jason Kelce's contract rounded up due to CB being better, and combined with 80% of the highest LB contract.

 

[BrindamoursNose]

 

[Jack Straw]

I’ll keep my opinions on “best player the Eagles have drafted” to myself but I will point out that the Eagles drafted HOF OL Bob Brown. So Lane has something to prove to be considered even the best OL the Eagles have drafted.

 

[JojoTheWhale]

Yeah, that's a fine ratio

Ok, I'm going to do away with dummy years and focus on the actual money. And since so much of the hierarchy of the salary charts is cyclical, I'm going to start with Transition Tag numbers. That's an average of the top 10. LBs were a bit over 17 last year.

Centers get lumped into OL and aren't paid as much as Tackles, so I can't use tags there. The 5th most expensive C is at 12.5ish.

The roster spot has value, but I think the extra injury risk hurts the contract more than the roster spot adds. That gives us a ceiling of ~29.5. High end pass rushers are now in the 30s, so that feels like we're in the right area given that both of Bednarik's spots are on the lower end of the positional value scale. The very top of the LB scale is now in the 20 range, so we have to be well clear of that.

I'm going to say something like 4/112.

 

[Beef Invictus]

Ok, I'm going to do away with dummy years and focus on the actual money. And since so much of the hierarchy of the salary charts is cyclical, I'm going to start with Transition Tag numbers. That's an average of the top 10. LBs were a bit over 17 last year.

Centers get lumped into OL and aren't paid as much as Tackles, so I can't use tags there. The 5th most expensive C is at 12.5ish.

The roster spot has value, but I think the extra injury risk hurts the contract more than the roster spot adds. That gives us a ceiling of ~29.5. High end pass rushers are now in the 30s, so that feels like we're in the right area given that both of Bednarik's spots are on the lower end of the positional value scale. The very top of the LB scale is now in the 20 range, so we have to be well clear of that.

I'm going to say something like 4/112.

We got in the same neighborhood using different methods

 

[JojoTheWhale]

I’ll keep my opinions on “best player the Eagles have drafted” to myself but I will point out that the Eagles drafted HOF OL Bob Brown. So Lane has something to prove to be considered even the best OL the Eagles have drafted.

I know I didn't say this, but I meant best Eagle drafted. Meaning career length matters. Brown only played here for 5 seasons. Lane's at 11. That's a big difference.

I would also point out that I said Entry Draft. That means no Reggie.

 

[Jack Straw]

I know I didn't say this, but I meant best Eagle drafted. Meaning career length matters. Brown only played here for 5 seasons. Lane's at 11. That's a big difference.

I would also point out that I said Entry Draft. That means no Reggie.

The Eagles drafted Brown.

Edit: if Eagles tenure matters more then ok

 

[BrindamoursNose]

There’s a follow up video on Tik Tok of that Eagles fan that the Bills D Line assaulted at the end of the game.

It’s crazy funny…this one takes place AFTER the Eagles fan in the front gets shoved.

No wonder the Bills got marched on. They were. STEAMING.

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZPRvC9u7q/

 

[JojoTheWhale]

I don’t have the heart to tag SnS in this. What on earth.

 

[Chicken N Raffls]

We got in the same neighborhood using different methods

This board cracks me up. @JojoTheWhale's equation:

=X

Beef's equation: C+LB=X

You guys are both very special in your own ways

 

[Svechhammer]

You know I keep seeing all these comments and whining about how the refs are in our pocket this year and how that's eventually going to flip and all I have to say is... Maybe this is all karma for the bullshit penalty on Bradberry that lost us the Super Bowl last year and the field conditions that were fine tuned to take away our best advantage at the LOS.

The people who are whining now are the same ones who were laughing at us and telling us not to blame the refs and field after that one. So yeah, f*** em all.

 

[trostol]

i am so glad the NFL didn't flex this game off tonight

 

[trostol]

this is some grade a football tonight

 

[Gregor Samsa]

What a game

 

[Beef Invictus]

This board cracks me up. @JojoTheWhale's equation:

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=X

Beef's equation: C+LB=X

You guys are both very special in your own ways

C+(LB * .8)=X to be specific.

Yet another game where a franchise slowly learns the consequences of relying on an OSU QB

 

[Beef Invictus]

Ok, I'm going to do away with dummy years and focus on the actual money. And since so much of the hierarchy of the salary charts is cyclical, I'm going to start with Transition Tag numbers. That's an average of the top 10. LBs were a bit over 17 last year.

Centers get lumped into OL and aren't paid as much as Tackles, so I can't use tags there. The 5th most expensive C is at 12.5ish.

The roster spot has value, but I think the extra injury risk hurts the contract more than the roster spot adds. That gives us a ceiling of ~29.5. High end pass rushers are now in the 30s, so that feels like we're in the right area given that both of Bednarik's spots are on the lower end of the positional value scale. The very top of the LB scale is now in the 20 range, so we have to be well clear of that.

I'm going to say something like 4/112.

I was thinking more about this and that it probably comes down to 22-25mil due to the risk of one injury robbing you of two positions.

But then I realized it frees up a contract slot. That slot could be used on a WB who does nothing but run jet sweeps and fake jet sweeps or throws spectacular flying blocks. And that's worth 40 million intangible dollars.

 

[Chicken N Raffls]

I tuned in just in time for the ole Benny Hill play

 

[Chicken N Raffls]

Self: When will Jalen Hurts make those cool shovel plays.

Self: SUPERBOWL. Duh