Other Sports: Philadelphia Eagles (NFL): THIS IS BRAZIL (Start Of 2024 Regular Season)

[DancingPanther]

8 weeks to do what?

 

[DancingPanther]

That would be #2 highest valued worldwide in all of sports from what I'm seeing. Now, that's taking what I presume to be outdated figures from all the other franchises and comparing them to this valuation, which is very very recent

 

[JojoTheWhale]

That would be #2 highest valued worldwide in all of sports from what I'm seeing. Now, that's taking what I presume to be outdated figures from all the other franchises and comparing them to this valuation, which is very very recent

Almost every sold team outperforms valuations.

Insert joke about the Pirates' payroll here. I feel bad for those fans.

 

[Cody Webster]

8 weeks to do what?

Use of play action passes

 

[DancingPanther]

Use of play action passes

Got it ty. I can't see anything on that site bc I don't use it other than embedded tweets

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1852021972105941490

 

[trostol]

Anyone know exactly how much the guardian cap actually helps?

 

[DancingPanther]

Serious question: when was the last onside kick recovery?

 

[sauce88]

Serious question: when was the last onside kick recovery?

Week 7 Tampa did against the Ravens. Unfortunately all my teams with Godwin shares felt the pain during garbage time.

 

[Chinatown88]

Things I learned watching TNF.
DJax is a legend and people will still imitate him fumbling before the end zone.
Schefty posted a vid of the Corley fumble from Methstreams. Maybe he uses it or maybe he used someone else's clip. Found it funny.
Hated Stroud last night, felt like he was holding on to the ball way too long. Maybe the Texans are frauds
Wilson needs more deep balls his way, my goodness
Will McDonald is a monster.

 

[GKJ]

Damn Richardson is still only 22 years old (won’t turn 23 until the end of May).

It’s tough to blame someone that was told they’d be a top 5-10 pick & ultimately did end up going 4th overall to stay in school. But his physical gifts pushed him way up the board than where his play level was at. Now he’s in between a rock & hard place. He’s needed the reps the last two years but the NFL isn’t a development league for QB’s especially anymore.

Right or wrong I don’t think teams care if you were a high pick anymore like they perhaps used to. You have a year or two window to show some signs of hope.

QB development is hell. If you're really good in college, you earn yourself a draft spot that puts you in a position where you probably don't have many reps, and due to your draft capital the team needs you to provide returns immediately. There's this unfortunate sweet spot where fantastic physical gifts spell the doom of your long-term career in most cases. They're thrown into a sink-or-swim situation and they didn't have time to learn how to swim, so they're trying to learn as they die.

That’s why you wait for like round 4 or 5 to draft on tools. Problem is they’ll be less investment to get them on the field.

 

[WIP CALLER]

Things I learned watching TNF.
DJax is a legend and people will still imitate him fumbling before the end zone.
Schefty posted a vid of the Corley fumble from Methstreams. Maybe he uses it or maybe he used someone else's clip. Found it funny.
Hated Stroud last night, felt like he was holding on to the ball way too long. Maybe the Texans are frauds
Wilson needs more deep balls his way, my goodness
Will McDonald is a monster.

Stroud was not good last night but to be fair his receivers right now are terrible. Tank Dell is barely a #3 receiver let alone a #1.

 

[Halladay]

Stroud is not the issue. The Texans haven't had a competent oline in over a decade. It starts there. This year they are terrible.

 

[Beef Invictus]

That’s why you wait for like round 4 or 5 to draft on tools. Problem is they’ll be less investment to get them on the field.

Yep. That's my preference. The combination of watching JD go get himself routinely lit up while running in college and the usual need for top draft picks to immediately play left me full of fear. Luckily for me, I am stupid

 

[Beef Invictus]

Stroud is not the issue.

Hmm. Big if true. But can it be true?

Hmm

OH NO

 

[JojoTheWhale]

"Just draft one of the most talented QBs to ever enter the NFL in Round 4" is one hell of a take.

If our bar of drafting for tools puts Richardson and someone like Rattler on even ground, we're not actually saying anything. We're just talking in platitudes. I liked them both coming out. But they weren't comparable in any way.

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

@JojoTheWhale

 

[deadhead]

LADD

Problem with this chart, devalues WRs who are good at getting separation - b/c they'll have a low rate of "contested throws." Needs a third axis.

 

[deadhead]

I saw someone say that agents are telling QBs not to come out without at least two years of tape because the NFL won't develop you anymore. That's one of the few things this NIL mess as currently constructed can help. These guys need to play meaningful games and there is no developmental league.

It's always been that way. 50 college starts was the standard for scouts, b/c you could see a kid develop and how he adjusted as DCs game planned for him.

This may explain why lesser talents often succeed over top talents at QB - lesser talents are far more likely to stay in college and get that additional experience, Hurts is a good example. And the transfer portal allows QBs to move on and get an extra year of starting in a good program.

Problem is agents often tell kids they're ready to get them to come out to get that 5% of that 1st rd contract, or the kid is greedy.

Arch Manning has two Uncles counseling him to be patient, he's learning as a redshirt, then will start two years after watching for two years, and might even stay as a senior. NILs make deferring your big payday less painful. And Peyton can tell him what to expect starting for a terrible team.

 

[Beef Invictus]

"Just draft one of the most talented QBs to ever enter the NFL in Round 4" is one hell of a take.

If our bar of drafting for tools puts Richardson and someone like Rattler on even ground, we're not actually saying anything. We're just talking in platitudes. I liked them both coming out. But they weren't comparable in any way.

I've got a whole plan. Take someone with sufficient results, lots of college snaps, and let them sit and learn for a few years. Then reap the Superbowls. This is straightforward and no, I will not be accepting any questions or criticisms. Thank you.

 

[deadhead]

Think with the Eagles, the bye week allowed them to self-scout their new schemes and what was working.

1) Fangio's base defense is now a "3 DT" formation, before he was gong with a 4 man line with 2 DEs. This allows him to move the DE/OLBs around, and makes it harder to run inside. Getting DeJean on the field is the icing on the cake. He's perfect inside where lack of deep speed is hidden but his size and IQ play up.

2) They're running more, but just as important, they stopped running Hurts laterally, he's lost the burst to do that, but is still a power RB on inside runs and draws and is elusive in short areas. He also takes fewer hits running N/S. However, Cowher is right, you pass early to run late - Barkley gets stopped a bunch in the first half, but is a load against tired legs in the 2nd half. You run early to set up the pass, you run late to ice the game.

3) Teaching and using people properly. Fred Johnson was awful the first game at RT, same with his first game at LT, last week he was fine against a good pass rusher. Stoutland rules! Steen has settled in at RG. Q looks more confident each game. Huff is a better DE than OLB, Smith is becoming a complete OLB, Dean has settled in at ILB, Baun as a hybrid LB.

 

[JojoTheWhale]

Problem with this chart, devalues WRs who are good at getting separation - b/c they'll have a low rate of "contested throws." Needs a third axis.

The name that I pointed out was quite low on the Contested% axis precisely because he does create separation.

Although let me say this since we're on the topic. Be extremely careful with how we treat the various Separation metrics out there. They all measure it differently and we have to understand what we are and are not saying. For example, NFL's Next Gen Stats version is a narrow view of specifically targeted receivers at the time of the catch.

 

[JojoTheWhale]

3) Teaching and using people properly. Fred Johnson was awful the first game at RT, same with his first game at LT, last week he was fine against a good pass rusher. Stoutland rules! Steen has settled in at RG.

They also didn't give Johnson any help. They used him largely the way Mailata would have been.

Give Stoutland 4 raises.

 

[Gregor Samsa]

I would hope the coaches get a vote of confidence from the GM if they are drafting a raw toolsy QB high.

 

[PHILOUDELPHIA]

Family of Susan Kim is expected to buy a minority stake Philadelphia Eagles from Lurie.

Price not exact

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