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LegionOfDoom91

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Damn Richardson is still only 22 years old (won’t turn 23 until the end of May).

It’s tough to blame someone that was told they’d be a top 5-10 pick & ultimately did end up going 4th overall to stay in school. But his physical gifts pushed him way up the board than where his play level was at. Now he’s in between a rock & hard place. He’s needed the reps the last two years but the NFL isn’t a development league for QB’s especially anymore.

Right or wrong I don’t think teams care if you were a high pick anymore like they perhaps used to. You have a year or two window to show some signs of hope.
 
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LegionOfDoom91 said:
Damn Richardson is still only 22 years old (won’t turn 23 until the end of May).

It’s tough to blame someone that was told they’d be a top 5-10 pick & ultimately did end up going 4th overall to stay in school. But his physical gifts pushed him way up the board than where his play level was at. Now he’s in between a rock & hard place. He’s needed the reps the last two years but the NFL isn’t a development league for QB’s especially anymore.

Right or wrong I don’t think teams care if you were a high pick anymore like they perhaps used to. You have a year or two window to show some signs of hope.
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QB development is hell. If you're really good in college, you earn yourself a draft spot that puts you in a position where you probably don't have many reps, and due to your draft capital the team needs you to provide returns immediately. There's this unfortunate sweet spot where fantastic physical gifts spell the doom of your long-term career in most cases. They're thrown into a sink-or-swim situation and they didn't have time to learn how to swim, so they're trying to learn as they die.
 
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Richardson is definitely on the more extreme end admittedly. He’s probably one of those “unicorn” type of prospects where the traits are so insane you overlook his substandard play level at that time. I’m usually against these type of bets in all sports but I actually don’t blame it here. But this guy desperately needed reps when he left college & two years later he still needs them.

He was a one year starter in college & I’m not even sure you can say he was good QB at that level in that one year. His success in that window essentially boiled down to be an elite athlete.
 
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LegionOfDoom91 said:
Damn Richardson is still only 22 years old (won’t turn 23 until the end of May).

It’s tough to blame someone that was told they’d be a top 5-10 pick & ultimately did end up going 4th overall to stay in school. But his physical gifts pushed him way up the board than where his play level was at. Now he’s in between a rock & hard place. He’s needed the reps the last two years but the NFL isn’t a development league for QB’s especially anymore.

Right or wrong I don’t think teams care if you were a high pick anymore like they perhaps used to. You have a year or two window to show some signs of hope.
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The #1 priority is to keep the job. It never has been and never will be to win a SB.

This is all a function of the short lifespan of team personnel to me. The people making these decisions don't have years to spin their wheels. If Josh Allen goes to a place without front office and coaching security, he has no prayer.

You would think we would all learn these lessons from guys like Mayfield and Geno, but we never will. Think of how hard it is just to contextualize good but not great QBs in fantastic situations like Hurts and Purdy. The difficulty scales steeply when you're dealing with raw athletes that almost everyone agrees needs actual reps.

I'm at the point where Trey Lance is my indicator on whether I want to keep going in a conversation. He was never given a chance to succeed. Some of it was injuries and some of it Shanahan losing interest. But the ultimate point is that when he came out, it was as close to unanimous as it gets that he simply hadn't played enough football to know if he could be a high end starter. That's still true today.

I saw someone say that agents are telling QBs not to come out without at least two years of tape because the NFL won't develop you anymore. That's one of the few things this NIL mess as currently constructed can help. These guys need to play meaningful games and there is no developmental league.
 
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Yes. Those are notably the people for whom that would make things easier.

PA makes it easier on the QB in effectiveness, but harder on the QB in actual practice because it means they have to turn their back to the defense.

It wouldn't be unique to Hurts if that was the case. Rodgers and Burrow both famously wanted no parts of it.
 
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Well, most high first round Qb draft picks go to bad teams. It is a tough row to make those teams good. Especially if they are young and come out early.

I look at Troy Aikman. Tipnocerall pick IIRC. He was awful, and lucky to survive the Boys when he first got there. The Herschell Walker trade, Nate Newton signing and good drafting of Larry Allen changed that team. That gave a decent QB a HOF line, and made him a HOFer.

It doesn't help when teams make these top picks and succumb to pressure, failing to give them development time.
 
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