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JojoTheWhale

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This apples and bananas shit is going to haunt my dreams. How many times can they play this?

@JojoTheWhale as I mentioned I stopped paying attention to this to avoid getting hyped for a mega athlete who ends up sucking.

Who is the mega athlete so far? Save me the time!

Like he said, Richardson is definitely one. I would add Deonte Banks (CB Maryland), Christian Gonzalez, Jack Campbell (LB Iowa), Julius Brents (CB KSt), and Adetomiwa Adebawore (EDGE Northwestern).
 

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The only thing I'm sure of with these QBs is that you shouldn't have changed your mind yesterday. We knew Richardson is an alien. We knew Stroud would look fantastic in sterile throwing drills. We knew Bryce Young was small. We knew Will Levis is a CIA asset.
Do you make big lists for these drafts or just keep names of guys you really like?
 
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JojoTheWhale

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Do you make big lists for these drafts or just keep names of guys you really like?

I have a database of stuff that I've collected and then notes that I made myself. All I really ever post is lists of names that I find interesting. That could be due to over/undervaluing by the community or because the discussion around them can teach me something.

For example, I don't think there's anything interesting to be said about Levis so I won't really have any opinions. He's got a big arm. His 2021 tape was good. His 2022 tape wasn't. Pretty much everyone agrees on that. I have none of the info (injury, personal reasons, etc) necessary to determine whether he can get back to that or not.

Anthony Richardson to me will live or die on whether someone can clean up his footwork. I find that interesting, so I tend to talk about him more. Especially when you get QB experts talking about whether that can be cleaned up. When you watch him, look at his feet. His inaccuracy isn't in his arm. His heels click constantly. Hell, he sometimes throws off of zero feet from inside the pocket. No one is Patrick Mahomes. It won't work.
 

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I have a database of stuff that I've collected and then notes that I made myself. All I really ever post is lists of names that I find interesting. That could be due to over/undervaluing by the community or because the discussion around them can teach me something.

For example, I don't think there's anything interesting to be said about Levis so I won't really have any opinions. He's got a big arm. His 2021 tape was good. His 2022 tape wasn't. Pretty much everyone agrees on that. I have none of the info (injury, personal reasons, etc) necessary to determine whether he can get back to that or not.

Anthony Richardson to me will live or die on whether someone can clean up his footwork. I find that interesting, so I tend to talk about him more. Especially when you get QB experts talking about whether that can be cleaned up. When you watch him, look at his feet. His inaccuracy isn't in his arm. His heels click constantly. Hell, he sometimes throws off of zero feet from inside the pocket. No one is Patrick Mahomes. It won't work.
Yeah you do. The lad puts mayonnaise in coffee. That's reason enough Jojo!
 

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I have a database of stuff that I've collected and then notes that I made myself. All I really ever post is lists of names that I find interesting. That could be due to over/undervaluing by the community or because the discussion around them can teach me something.

For example, I don't think there's anything interesting to be said about Levis so I won't really have any opinions. He's got a big arm. His 2021 tape was good. His 2022 tape wasn't. Pretty much everyone agrees on that. I have none of the info (injury, personal reasons, etc) necessary to determine whether he can get back to that or not.

Anthony Richardson to me will live or die on whether someone can clean up his footwork. I find that interesting, so I tend to talk about him more. Especially when you get QB experts talking about whether that can be cleaned up. When you watch him, look at his feet. His inaccuracy isn't in his arm. His heels click constantly. Hell, he sometimes throws off of zero feet from inside the pocket. No one is Patrick Mahomes. It won't work.

Richardson is doomed. I trust Florida QBs only slightly less than I trust OSU QBs. He may as well skip to the inevitable endgame and run away to join the circus as a trapeze artist.
 

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At this point, I would like to see your acceptable schools list for QBs. :laugh:

Virginia Tech has produced Michael Vick and Tyrod Taylor. UNC has produced the future of the sport in Sam Howell.


But for real, any of the teams that suck down massive rafts of talent for a QB to float on immediately makes me concerned. The big Florida schools fit that bill. OSU is definitely that. I think (generally, I still try to look at individual situations) those schools make it too easy for these guys. They aren't challenged enough due to their own hulking talent and the heaving, brawny, throbbing, wet talent all around them. They don't have to learn how to really read defenses and run an offense because they don't need to...and also because coaches are micromanaging too much, but that's a more universal problem.

These guys have the talent to succeed, but are so far behind the ball mentally that they have a huge hurdle to clear with how much they have to learn and catch up on. This is why I've been nuts for Howell, haha. I liked him to start with, but watching him in an absolute shit team only increased my interest. He faced huge adversity to the point where he had to actually focus hard on all those other skills, and to the point where the NFL is probably easier than what he faced his last year in college just because his teammates are by default more in parity with his opponents.

This is also why I've become a Hurts fan. Watching him in college I didn't see a future NFL QB. Hell, watching him to start his career I saw a guy who would flame out. He improved his game in a ton of places and in a ton of ways most talented QBs who swam in talent don't. Most seem to just get overwhelmed and sink into a "just survive" mindset. Unless you are Geno Smith and you spend most of your time in a "I'll just try to do it all myself" mindset somehow. This makes Hurts very interesting.

This is also why Lamar Jackson was highly intriguing to me. Dude came through Louisville. He had Alexander for a bit, but he was also just really good on his own.

Anyway, TL;DR I don't trust OSU or any major Florida school. I am situationally wary of Alabama and Georgia but don't write them off by default.

TL;DR of the TL;DR: Florida and Ohio should close all their colleges.
 

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Smith-Njigba is my top receiver. Ohio State receivers are always money.
 

JojoTheWhale

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Virginia Tech has produced Michael Vick and Tyrod Taylor. UNC has produced the future of the sport in Sam Howell.


But for real, any of the teams that suck down massive rafts of talent for a QB to float on immediately makes me concerned. The big Florida schools fit that bill. OSU is definitely that. I think (generally, I still try to look at individual situations) those schools make it too easy for these guys. They aren't challenged enough due to their own hulking talent and the heaving, brawny, throbbing, wet talent all around them. They don't have to learn how to really read defenses and run an offense because they don't need to...and also because coaches are micromanaging too much, but that's a more universal problem.

These guys have the talent to succeed, but are so far behind the ball mentally that they have a huge hurdle to clear with how much they have to learn and catch up on. This is why I've been nuts for Howell, haha. I liked him to start with, but watching him in an absolute shit team only increased my interest. He faced huge adversity to the point where he had to actually focus hard on all those other skills, and to the point where the NFL is probably easier than what he faced his last year in college just because his teammates are by default more in parity with his opponents.

This is also why I've become a Hurts fan. Watching him in college I didn't see a future NFL QB. Hell, watching him to start his career I saw a guy who would flame out. He improved his game in a ton of places and in a ton of ways most talented QBs who swam in talent don't. Most seem to just get overwhelmed and sink into a "just survive" mindset. Unless you are Geno Smith and you spend most of your time in a "I'll just try to do it all myself" mindset somehow. This makes Hurts very interesting.

This is also why Lamar Jackson was highly intriguing to me. Dude came through Louisville. He had Alexander for a bit, but he was also just really good on his own.

Anyway, TL;DR I don't trust OSU or any major Florida school. I am situationally wary of Alabama and Georgia but don't write them off by default.

TL;DR of the TL;DR: Florida and Ohio should close all their colleges.

Ok, so you should be a Tanner McKee fan then. If you can overcome David Shaw developing you in the 2020s, you eat radiation for breakfast.
 
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