Other Sports: Philadelphia 76ers, 2024-25: Countdown to April

[Halladay]

After Joel did his invisible man act in games 6 and 7 against Boston two years ago, I was adamant he should be traded then as they would never get close to an NBA finals with him. Hellen Keller could have saw this. Instead they decided to extend him. You get what you deserve.

 

[Embiid]

After Joel did his invisible man act in games 6 and 7 against Boston two years ago, I was adamant he should be traded then as they would never get close to an NBA finals with him. Hellen Keller could have saw this. Instead they decided to extend him. You get what you deserve.

You reap what you slow...I mean sow

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

 

[trostol]

what happens if say he retired at the end of the season...i mean in terms of his contract extension

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

what happens if say he retired at the end of the season...i mean in terms of his contract extension

He’d never do that so not exactly worth discussing.

I don’t mean this in a dick sounding way as it may sound. Just no one is passing up that coin even if he doesn’t ever play again.

 

[Flybynite]

What kind of knee surgery is going to fix his knee though?

 

[GKJ]

What kind of knee surgery is going to fix his knee though?

There isn’t one. He’s having surgeries you have when you’re 70. And they can’t put a team together that can be good without him.

Harden was the last chance. It was time to burn down when that failed. Now they’re stuck Paul George too.

 

[Jack Straw]

What kind of knee surgery is going to fix his knee though?

If there's a torn meniscus they remove the loose piece, same thing he's had before. Obviously there's only so much you can remove but if it's not too much he could still play. Novak Djokovic had meniscus surgery and he's still a top 5 player in the world. And he's 37 years old. He wasn't even wearing a brace or a compression sleeve at this year's Australian Open. Unfortunately I'm pretty sure Embiid's knee is in worse shape than Novak's.

 

[Taijuan Fedotov]

Nov 22, 2024

I think the "out for season" update is coming for Embiid soon.

It's been 3 months since it was obvious he should be shut down. When will the team know?

 

[DancingPanther]

If there's a torn meniscus they remove the loose piece, same thing he's had before. Obviously there's only so much you can remove but if it's not too much he could still play. Novak Djokovic had meniscus surgery and he's still a top 5 player in the world. And he's 37 years old. He wasn't even wearing a brace or a compression sleeve at this year's Australian Open. Unfortunately I'm pretty sure Embiid's knee is in worse shape than Novak's.

Djokovic repaired his meniscus, as in they sewed it back together. This is a much longer recovery period, but offers a better long term outlook. This is what McCain got done

Embiid got what you described done. They shaved off the torn part of the meniscus. This risks partial recovery because you have removed some meniscus, but sacrifices less rehab time.

We knew exactly this was a risk from the very moment we found out what surgery was performed last season

 

[Jack Straw]

Djokovic repaired his meniscus, as in they sewed it back together. This is a much longer recovery period, but offers a better long term outlook. This is what McCain got done

Embiid got what you described done. They shaved off the torn part of the meniscus. This risks partial recovery because you have removed some meniscus, but sacrifices less rehab time.

We knew exactly this was a risk from the very moment we found out what surgery was performed last season

You’re wrong about Djokovic. For one thing, he injured the knee at the French Open but recovered from the surgery in time for Wimbledon, which was only about a month later. Even for arthroscopic surgery that’s a remarkably quick turnaround. I don’t think there’s any way he could have been back that quickly if it had been a repair rather than a removal. And in this article, he specifically said that the torn piece was removed: Djokovic says recovering from surgery in time for Wimbledon 'right at top' of achievements.

I know quite a bit about meniscus removal since I’ve had it done myself. You’re never the same again (even Djokovic won’t be but then he might not play that much longer anyway) but you can still perform if they don’t remove too much. And most likely he’ll end up with arthritis and possibly knee replacement surgery (I maybe be looking at that even though I would like to avoid it) later in his life.

 

[DancingPanther]

You’re wrong about Djokovic. For one thing, he injured the knee at the French Open but recovered from the surgery in time for Wimbledon, which was only about a month later. Even for arthroscopic surgery that’s a remarkably quick turnaround. I don’t think there’s any way he could have been back that quickly if it had been a repair rather than a removal. And in this article, he specifically said that the torn piece was removed: Djokovic says recovering from surgery in time for Wimbledon 'right at top' of achievements.

I know quite a bit about meniscus removal since I’ve had it done myself. You’re never the same again (even Djokovic won’t be but then he might not play that much longer anyway) but you can still perform if they don’t remove too much. And most likely he’ll end up with arthritis and possibly knee replacement surgery (I maybe be looking at that even though I would like to avoid it) later in his life.

Huh, from the articles I saw it said "repair". Obviously that doesn't confer a month long recovery lol, I'd say you're right that he got it shaved down instead. Presumably articles written by people that don't realize the terminology is very specific.

Either way, it seems like we both know the difference here. And that means we both understand Embiid is probably toast

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

Harris “got” his stadium and equity in it. He’s happy.

This season is labeled a success for him while everyone else around the team suffers.

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

 

[Jack Straw]

 

[SnS]

Woj is a genius.

 

[Jack Straw]

 

[FLYguy3911]

Who does draft breakdowns these days?

 

[Magua]

Who does draft breakdowns these days?

I’d subscribe to @BigToe doing shot technique breakdowns.

 

[FatTugboatFlahr]

"Who is this fat guy playing like shit" I think to myself.

We have David Roddy?

 

[Flybynite]

Wow these guys suck.

Shoulda started poop for coop 2 months ago tho.

 

[Taijuan Fedotov]

Kind of looking forward to getting back into the scouting game.

 

[Danko]

I dont presume to know the treatment options they give to multi millionaire athletes, but I do know when a knee is f***ed. That knee is f***ed.

Im wondering what injections they are giving him and how often, im assuming he is getting Gel but if it is Cortizone theres only so many you can get in a year.

I think about Sam Morin and all the knee issues he had and how he had to retire early. Hope Joel has some type of meaningful recovery but its so unlikely.

 

[Jack Straw]

It really seems to me that telling a 7 ft, 270 lb man with little or no cartilage left in his knee, whose job is to run up and down hard wood floors for 30+ minutes 82 (lol) games a year, to essentially “just play through it”, is borderline malpractice. I hate to make statements like this since I’m not a doctor, but if it’s bone on bone then I think the only reasonable option is some kind of reconstructive surgery. I don’t know the details of what Lonzo had but it seems like Embiid is going to need either something like that or a total knee replacement. I mean, this is basically what turned Joe Namath and Bobby Orr into virtual cripples as young men.

 

[DancingPanther]

It really seems to me that telling a 7 ft, 270 lb man with little or no cartilage left in his knee, whose job is to run up and down hard wood floors for 30+ minutes 82 (lol) games a year, to essentially “just play through it”, is borderline malpractice. I hate to make statements like this since I’m not a doctor, but if it’s bone on bone then I think the only reasonable option is some kind of reconstructive surgery. I don’t know the details of what Lonzo had but it seems like Embiid is going to need either something like that or a total knee replacement. I mean, this is basically what turned Joe Namath and Bobby Orr into virtual cripples as young men.

It's literally insane that they did a removal vs a repair. Literally insane. Wouldn't be surprised if that was a decision made by player, coach, and GM in the face of multiple ortho doctors saying it isn't the best option

Lonzo was in his mid 20s by the time he had his cartilage transplant and faced a year long rehab. The time is ticking on Embiid at 31. And honestly, I believe the clock has struck 11:55pm.