Other Sports: Philadelphia 76ers, 2024-25: Countdown to April

[Jack Straw]

Two game winning streak baby! Woot!

 

[DancingPanther]

BACK TO BACK WINS

IN REGULATION?!

We are so back

 

[Magua]

Every time I saw Lowry on the floor (12 minutes), he did less than nothing and the Hornets started rallying. He reeks, and Nurse can’t get out of his own way there.

KJ + Yabu + Bona cobbled together >>>> Drummond. A not so unpredictable thing.

 

[DancingPanther]

Every time I saw Lowry on the floor (12 minutes), he did less than nothing and the Hornets started rallying. He reeks, and Nurse can’t get out of his own way there.

KJ + Yabu + Bona cobbled together >>>> Drummond. A not so unpredictable thing.

You mean to tell me that Morey's old slow vets are old and slow? That's never happened

 

[Magua]

You mean to tell me that Morey's old slow vets are old and slow? That's never happened

Who do you think acquired Bona, Yabusele, KJ, RCIV, Maxey, and McCain?

It’s not worth griping about league minimum contracts. Drummond is the one I put on Morey with the limited cap space. His first stint was mythologized, and the fit is putrid with their shooting, and he still might be played off the floor against good teams. They desperately wanted him last deadline too. Seems a classic case of overcorrection from Paul Reed.

But Nick Nurse is giving them D+ coaching too many nights. McCain was cooking, and Nurse can’t find him minutes, but he finds Lowry minutes to start runs against. Little too Flyers-esque that injuries are boons.

 

[DancingPanther]

Who do you think acquired Bona, Yabusele, KJ, RCIV, Maxey, and McCain?

It’s not worth griping about league minimum contracts. Drummond is the one I put on Morey with the limited cap space. His first stint was mythologized, and the fit is putrid with their shooting, and he still might be played off the floor against good teams. They desperately wanted him last deadline too. Seems a classic case of overcorrection from Paul Reed.

But Nick Nurse is giving them D+ coaching too many nights. McCain was cooking, and Nurse can’t find him minutes, but he finds Lowry minutes to start runs against. Little too Flyers-esque that injuries are boons.

Nick Nurse, another Morey guy

I'm not saying he is an F tier GM, but you'll hear no praise for me. He deserves plenty of credit for getting PG, wriggling out of Harden, acquiring Harden in the first place, and his drafting. To me, Morey understands the importance of getting "the guys" and I trust him to identify core pieces, but consistently falls short in the margin, supporting cast FA signings that have crippled this team in the playoffs (and rendered the bench rotation in regular season games a huge weakness). Yabu is extra annoying because that is EXACTLY the type of signing we've been missing through the "second round exit" seasons and of course, this is when we dug him up lol. That's not Morey's fault obviously

Long story short Morey could be way worse, but he also could be way better

 

[Magua]

Nick Nurse, another Morey guy

I'm not saying he is an F tier GM, but you'll hear no praise for me. He deserves plenty of credit for getting PG, wriggling out of Harden, acquiring Harden in the first place, and his drafting. To me, Morey understands the importance of getting "the guys" and I trust him to identify core pieces, but consistently falls short in the margin, supporting cast FA signings that have crippled this team in the playoffs (and rendered the bench rotation in regular season games a huge weakness). Yabu is extra annoying because that is EXACTLY the type of signing we've been missing through the "second round exit" seasons and of course, this is when we dug him up lol. That's not Morey's fault obviously

Long story short Morey could be way worse, but he also could be way better

He’s had a LOT of good moves, especially drafting. It’s just impossible to judge this team without an MVP form Embiid. If we never get that guy again, then it’s deck chairs on the Titanic.

 

[DancingPanther]

He’s had a LOT of good moves, especially drafting. It’s just impossible to judge this team without an MVP form Embiid. If we never get that guy again, then it’s deck chairs on the Titanic.

And with the extension, it's toast. But ushering in the Maxey and McCain is at least a good start.

This is not me disparaging the Embiid extension. This was always the risk, but it was also always the way for this iteration of the team. I've said this plenty of times, same with the PG acquisition

 

[FLYguy3911]

DP wait until PJ Tucker gets bought out.

 

[DancingPanther]

DP wait until PJ Tucker gets bought out.

Morey would cream his pants. PJ "Zeros" Tucker will finally be able to come back home. He plays hard in the playoffs

 

[JojoTheWhale]

I don't know anymore. NBA rookies aren't this good.

 

[Mkoll]

Maxey screwed out of potentially tying the game with 3 seconds left. Frustrating.

 

[DancingPanther]

We're back to not being back

 

[Jack Straw]

We're back to not being back

It's hard to continue to be back on the back end of a back to back. Maybe tomorrow we can start being back again.

 

[DancingPanther]

It's hard to continue to be back on the back end of a back to back. Maybe tomorrow we can start being back again.

Yeah and PG wasn't back for the back half of the back to back which would have had us back to being back. If he's back tomorrow they might be back

 

[Beef Invictus]

I haven't been watching so it's not my fault

 

[deadhead]

This was like watching the process team, young, gutsy but not good enough.

However, instead of stashing a bunch of draft picks by taking on bad salaries and building for the future, Morey has doomed this team with two huge contracts to duds, George is a shadow of himself who can't stay healthy, and Embiid will never get through a season (much less a playoff run).

Ironically, if Hinkie had drafted this well he'd still be running things and they'd be a powerhouse.

 

[Jack Straw]

This was like watching the process team, young, gutsy but not good enough.

However, instead of stashing a bunch of draft picks by taking on bad salaries and building for the future, Morey has doomed this team with two huge contracts to duds, George is a shadow of himself who can't stay healthy, and Embiid will never get through a season (much less a playoff run).

Ironically, if Hinkie had drafted this well he'd still be running things and they'd be a powerhouse.

PG missed a total of 8 games last year, he played more games than any Sixers player (74 vs 70 for both Maxey and Harris). He averaged 22.6 pts/gm. Pretty decent for a "shadow". Unfortunately you're probably right about Embiid though.

 

[JojoTheWhale]

To review, league MVPs get indefensible contracts while the Flyers smear cliches on everything and call it culture, but that’s great. The worst thing about sports is the fans.

 

[DancingPanther]

To review, league MVPs get indefensible contracts while the Flyers smear cliches on everything and call it culture, but that’s great. The worst thing about sports is the fans.

It's insane that anyone would be against extending Embiid.

Let's imagine Morey sights the injury risk as why he doesn't re-sign him. Now imagine the knee holds up. Imagine.

 

[Chinatown88]

So Morey's master plan is to tank for Flagg right?

 

[JojoTheWhale]

It's insane that anyone would be against extending Embiid.

Let's imagine Morey sights the injury risk as why he doesn't re-sign him. Now imagine the knee holds up. Imagine.

It's the type of thing that can blow up in your face, but it just doesn't matter. They couldn't trade him for real value. So you sign him and hope you get a good roll of the swelling dice. If he's not at an MVP level again, they're not contending in the next few years anyway.

There's this tendency to lose all sense of scope with ascending young players. I think everyone loves Maxey. But there were some wild takes out there about how he could be a lead guy on a contender that were frankly insane. Either Embiid is that guy or they don't have him. If it's the latter, you then need time to get him and time for him to develop. So you're talking about shooting for a 2029ish start time.

A lot of the same people who do this weird Embiid thing were still Okafor fans in Year 3 or were the "Build around Simmons" chuckleheads. It is what it is.

 

[deadhead]

To review, league MVPs get indefensible contracts while the Flyers smear cliches on everything and call it culture, but that’s great. The worst thing about sports is the fans.

If those contracts went to the George and Embiid of five years ago . . . Sixers would be favorites.

But from what I've seen of George this season, he's a shadow of himself.
34 years old, here's his GP last five seasons, 48, 54, 31, 56, 74.
You give him a huge contract for age 34-37? Nuts.
He was very good in the 2020-21 playoffs, but that was 4 years ago, he can't do that anymore.
Last year in the POs he basically gave a prime Tobias Harris (28-29) performance.

And Embiid, he's cooked. Those knees are going, even if he makes it to the playoffs, what's the over/under on how many games he plays? This team isn't good enough for him to be Willis Reed.

Now they're f----d. Can't move either player, and their contracts mean you can't bring in young FAs, and they traded a bunch of draft picks. The next 3-4 years are going to be mediocrity with no way out.

 

[Embiid]

This isn't so bad as long as Morey doesn't go into Chuck Fletcher mode with the few blue chip draft picks we have left. Maxey and McCain were plucked as late picks...hopefully if we hold on to our own picks including the Clippers conditional picks we can do better than Okafor, Simmons, Fultz and Zhaire Smith...

The Process has been on life support for a while now. Embiid is on the cusp of being the sequel to Jeff Ruland with that gimp knee. It just sucks being a Philly fan....

 

[JojoTheWhale]

If those contracts went to the George and Embiid of five years ago . . . Sixers would be favorites.

But from what I've seen of George this season, he's a shadow of himself.
34 years old, here's his GP last five seasons, 48, 54, 31, 56, 74.
You give him a huge contract for age 34-37? Nuts.
He was very good in the 2020-21 playoffs, but that was 4 years ago, he can't do that anymore.
Last year in the POs he basically gave a prime Tobias Harris (28-29) performance.

And Embiid, he's cooked. Those knees are going, even if he makes it to the playoffs, what's the over/under on how many games he plays? This team isn't good enough for him to be Willis Reed.

Now they're f----d. Can't move either player, and their contracts mean you can't bring in young FAs, and they traded a bunch of draft picks. The next 3-4 years are going to be mediocrity with no way out.

“From what I’ve seen of George this season” and drawing meaningful conclusions from that is the perfect example of why I think you’re hilariously unaware of the limitations of your opinions. You have informed opinions on everything. Doesn’t that ever give you pause?

You absolutely, positively did not watch Clippers playoff games for the last 4 years. But you confidently comped the best Wing shooter of his generation to Tobias Harris because you checked Basketball Reference.