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GKJ

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At 2-11, if they're not at that point, they are very close to pulling the plug completely on the season.
 

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They desperately need Maxey. He’s the only guy right now who is a gravity nightmare for opposing teams. And they need his shooting. Being light on shooters was the hole even before. Maxey and McCain should feast in the backcourt, benching Lowry’s ass and opening up easier looks for others. At no point this season has PG been an actual 3rd option on the weak side.

Yabusele only getting garbage time was a CHOICE in a game like this. Nurse has been pretty bad in his own right. But the elephant in the room is Embiid not looking playable in all 3 games. Their season boils down to: “Does this change? Yes or no?”
 
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I suppose the glass half full hope is that everyone will get healthy and they will have a playoff mentality for much of the season, rolling into the playoffs as a team that has been playing for its life, more or less, for a while. Nothing gives me the hope they have that mental fortitude and determined motivation though
 

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not saying Reggie Jackson is good, but he played really well in the Cavs game and has been given 0 minutes since then. Meanwhile, Downtin is averaging over 20 minutes the last 4 games? Nurse is losing my faith in him fast, he seems to be flailing out there.

Bad coaching can usually be softened with good shooting, sixers arent doing that either. Everything that could go wrong is happening all at once.
Except McCain's emergence.
 
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not saying Reggie Jackson is good, but he played really well in the Cavs game and has been given 0 minutes since then. Meanwhile, Downtin is averaging over 20 minutes the last 4 games? Nurse is losing my faith in him fast, he seems to be flailing out there.

Bad coaching can usually be softened with good shooting, sixers arent doing that either. Everything that could go wrong is happening all at once.
Except McCain's emergence.

I know you can't blame everything on the coach but even with the injuries, etc... this team should have won more than two games at this point. They have played decently in the first half of some games, but then it's all downhill. And Jackson certainly seems like a more useful player than Dowtin.
 

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I know you can't blame everything on the coach but even with the injuries, etc... this team should have won more than two games at this point. They have played decently in the first half of some games, but then it's all downhill. And Jackson certainly seems like a more useful player than Dowtin.
Yeah definitely not blaming it all on Nurse, just his choice of players. The players are the ones missing easy layups and turning the ball over.

failures all around and its truly mindboggling. All of these guys can play, we have all seen them excel, but together they are a mess. After the first 10 games I kept telling myself, they just need to gel. But blowing a 19 point lead was inexcusable.

and yeah, like clock work the start of the second half they forget how to play.
 

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Reggie Jackson is not the answer to anything substantive. He can create with the ball in his hands and that’s it. He’s also going to force that ability at all costs even in games where he has nothing. You bring him in for microwave situations. I like having him as an end of bench guy for those super narrow bands, but McCain functionally pushed him out. They’re not really playable together.

But the elephant in the room is Embiid not looking playable in all 3 games. Their season boils down to: “Does this change? Yes or no?”

This. Forget the attempts to rewrite what happened over the summer. The excitement was appropriate for the time. Either Embiid returns to form or he doesn’t. This is the NBA. You need true stars. If they have 2 or 6 wins right now misses the point completely.
 
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Reggie Jackson is not the answer to anything substantive. He can create with the ball in his hands and that’s it. He’s also going to force that ability at all costs even in games where he has nothing. You bring him in for microwave situations. I like having him as an end of bench guy for those super narrow bands, but McCain functionally pushed him out. They’re not really playable together.



This. Forget the attempts to rewrite what happened over the summer. The excitement was appropriate for the time. Either Embiid returns to form or he doesn’t. This is the NBA. You need true stars. If they have 2 or 6 wins right now misses the point completely.
No one is saying that Jackson is the answer to anything other than, "is there a guard on this team that is more useful than Jeff Dowtin?" Jackson is certainly a legitimate answer to that question (so is basically every other guard on the roster for that matter).

Embiid right now looks so far from his normal self, even his normal injured self, that this team could easily be 2-20 by the time he rounds into form. If he even does round into form. In the meantime you need to do whatever is necessary to win any games that you can. Dowtin over Jackson makes no sense from that perspective.
 

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No one is saying that Jackson is the answer to anything other than, "is there a guard on this team that is more useful than Jeff Dowtin?" Jackson is certainly a legitimate answer to that question (so is basically every other guard on the roster for that matter).

Embiid right now looks so far from his normal self, even his normal injured self, that this team could easily be 2-20 by the time he rounds into form. If he even does round into form. In the meantime you need to do whatever is necessary to win any games that you can. Dowtin over Jackson makes no sense from that perspective.

Jackson is worse defensively. He’s one of the worst defenders in the league. Has been for the better part of a decade.

I would try different lineups fairly often right now. This isn’t a Nurse is right thing. But I don’t think it’s this clear cut at all. That’s what I meant when I said McCain pushed him out. A Jackson + McCain backcourt can’t guard anyone.
 

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Jackson is worse defensively. He’s one of the worst defenders in the league. Has been for the better part of a decade.

I would try different lineups fairly often right now. This isn’t a Nurse is right thing. But I don’t think it’s this clear cut at all. That’s what I meant when I said McCain pushed him out. A Jackson + McCain backcourt can’t guard anyone.
That could be a reasonable point were it not for the fact that according to what they said on the post game show last night, the Sixers are the worst defensive team in the league. But they're also the lowest scoring team in the league. 2-11 is bad but being the worst on offense AND defense would suggest a different approach. I'll live with Jackson's defense if he can provide some kind of functional offense.

Edit: Completely agree that it's not clear cut and different lineups should be tried out. But stapling a decent veteran player to the bench at this time makes no sense to me.
 
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Sixers have a nurse but need a doctor...especially Embiid and that compromised knee. The team is on life support right now. Also, if Morey trades the Clipper's picks to salvage the season....gonna be so pissed!
 

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Just in case it does implode, this is why Paul George was so much better than every other option. Their own owed picks are lightly protected and they have the Clippers'. A few years of contracts mean nothing. This is the NBA. It takes time.
 

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Not here to troll, basically just a Raptors fan so don't pay attention to a ton of the league while Toronto is in a rebuild but man...

Nurse looks like he sucked the joy out of the players. He was great when we had the build up to Khawi season and during that season. After, he looked like he didn't enjoy the games, and the players didn't look like they enjoyed it either.

Not sure if it's a culture thing he creates with his coaching staff or if it's his style but he seems to wear people out around him. He also tends to have usage of players that makes no sense while guys who can contribute ride the bench. Youth usually doesn't get much chance for development unless you have a kid like McCain who absolutely forces his way.

Best of luck to turn it around, it's been years hearing about the Process and legitimately would like to see Philly thrive (while Toronto is in the dumps for now).
 
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Shams just said that they had a team meeting last night and Tyrese Maxey challenged Joel Embiid to stop being late. When Embiid asked late for what, he was told 'everything.'
 
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I'm not normally one to engage in weird speculation (Lord knows there's enough of that going on here on this board) but this is a strange situation.

Embiid had the meniscus surgery early February (it was announced on Feb 6 so it was a few days before that). Meniscus surgery is normally (as I found out the hard way) about a 2 month (sometimes less) recovery. He came back and played on April 2nd. He scored 50 in game 3 against the Knicks and averaged 33/10.8.5.7 for the series, with 39/13 in the last game. Those are good numbers by any standard.

In the Olympics he looked out of shape and didn't play well. Then, no training camp or pre-season. And now, 9 months after the surgery, although it appears that he's dropped a lot of weight, he looks significantly worse than he did when he actually came back from the injury at the end of last season.

Maybe, not having played an actual basketball game since the Olympics, he's just far from being in game shape. But it really does make you wonder what's going on.
 
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