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Confirmed Signing with Link: [PHI] F Travis Konecny signs extension with the Flyers (8 years, $8.75M AAV)

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horner said:
The young Flyers players will benefit having around he would go through a wall to win.
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He just needed to go to another team, not go thru any walls. The Flyers are already on a four year streak of missing the playoffs.
 
Petes2424 said:
Much more reasonable. Anything under $9 was gonna be reasonable. He’s the type of player you may over term somewhat because of the pace he provides, etc… like a Dylan Larkin.

Still though, Travis is gonna have to start being consistently around a PPG or the fans will eventually turn on him.
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He has been.... while being 3rd in the league in ES scoring percentage of total points. With a half decent power play he's a 90 point player

129 points in last 136 games

GKJ said:
That’s right.
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He's a clear cut 1st line player
 
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CanadienShark said:
Woof that's a big deal. I certainly wouldn't want him at that price, but the Flyers couldn't afford to let him go either.
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Caufield 7.8M, worth 6.5M is nowhere near Konecny
Laine 8.7M, worth 6M is equivalent of Konecny at 11M
Gallagher 6.5M worth 2M

You must want them all gone immediately

Canovin said:
Got paid more than Buchnevich
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Why wouldn't he?
 
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Sasso09 said:
Well

#1 He's better than Horvat by a good amount
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by what metric?

in general, horvat has consistently out pointed him over his career. last year they tied for goals and for assists and were within 8 seconds of one another for ice time.

horvat is also bigger, plays centre and is very strong on face offs. all valuable commodities.
 
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Sasso09 said:
Caufield 7.8M, worth 6.5M is nowhere near Konecny
Laine 8.7M, worth 6M is equivalent of Konecny at 11M
Gallagher 6.5M worth 2M

You must want them all gone immediately


Why wouldn't he?
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How old are Caufield and Laine, again? And how old are they going to be at the end of their contract?

Konecny's comparable is Gallagher when he signed his deal, and we know see how those end up. That is the type of deal a contender gives its 28 y old UFA during a contending period, knowing they won't be worth it at the end but they will be tearing down the team anyways.

A rebuilding team like the Flyers should never have given that deal, even less with a NMC. This deal will be a catastrophe...

... and most knowledgeable Flyers fans acknowledge that.

Like most knowledgeable Habs fabs knew Gallagher deal was going to be really bad.
 
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Sasso09 said:
Caufield 7.8M, worth 6.5M is nowhere near Konecny
Laine 8.7M, worth 6M is equivalent of Konecny at 11M
Gallagher 6.5M worth 2M

You must want them all gone immediately


Why wouldn't he?
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Absurd comparison. I'm not sure if you're aware, but Gallagher was a bad deal the day it was signed. Just like Konecny. I'm not sure why you bring up these strange comparisons that have nothing to do with the topic though.

The contract isn't good, but the Flyers need him. That's fine.
 
Michoulicious said:
How old are Caufield and Laine, again? And how old are they going to be at the end of their contract?

Konecny's comparable is Gallagher when he signed his deal, and we know see how those end up. That is the type of deal a contender gives its 28 y old UFA during a contending period, knowing they won't be worth it at the end but they will be tearing down the team anyways.

A rebuilding team like the Flyers should never have given that deal, even less with a NMC. This deal will be a catastrophe...

... and most knowledgeable Flyers fans acknowledge that.

Like most knowledgeable Habs fabs knew Gallagher deal was going to be really bad.
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I really want to disagree with you, but i can't.
 
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CanadienShark said:
Absurd comparison. I'm not sure if you're aware, but Gallagher was a bad deal the day it was signed. Just like Konecny. I'm not sure why you bring up these strange comparisons that have nothing to do with the topic though.

The contract isn't good, but the Flyers need him. That's fine.
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The contract is fair for his current play. It may be bad on the back end. It's not really a good comparison to gallagher.

The contract is not bad. It has the same risk as any long term signed by a 28yo.
 
FlyguyOX said:
The contract is fair for his current play. It may be bad on the back end. It's not really a good comparison to gallagher.

The contract is not bad. It has the same risk as any long term signed by a 28yo.
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I feel like it's high now, but again, you can overpay for a guy you need to keep.
 
The Flyers back up the truck for a fringe first liner because he "wants to win here" but they can't top the offer Mike Grier made for Askarov, a probable franchise goaltender, when they have six selections in the top two rounds of a single draft and a plethora of young players (but only one with undisputable first line projection). Factor in they're rolling out a tandem with like 60 NHL games of experience....I'm pretty sure we're witnessing a GM that is overvaluing almost of their current assets, and undervaluing potential moves to improve his team.
 
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FlyguyOX said:
If you compare to what he would have got on the open market, which should be the comparison, then I don't think it's too high.
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Like it's been said many times, problem is not the contract exactly per se.

Many 28y old UFAs get big money contracts that age poorly but that are an ok gamble for teams that plan to contend in the early part of the deal and assume they will be rebuilding at the end anyways when the guy will be 33-36 years old and clearly overpaid...

Big problem here is Flyers won't contend for many years, and that when they want to go for it they'll be stuck with an aging Konecny with a full NMC... A bit like Montreal is now stuck with Gallagher on its bottom 6 at 6 millions per year.

The deal is bad mainly because it has been awarded by the Flyers. They should have realized where they are in their rebuild and let him go.
 
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Michoulicious said:
Like it's been said many times, problem is not the contract exactly per se.

Many 28y old UFAs get big money contracts that age poorly but that are an ok gamble for teams that plan to contend in the early part of the deal and assume they will be rebuilding at the end anyways when the guy will be 33-36 years old and clearly overpaid...

Big problem here is Flyers won't contend for many years, and that when they want to go for it they'll be stuck with an aging Konecny with a full NMC... A bit like Montreal is now stuck with Gallagher on its bottom 6 at 6 millions per year.

The deal is bad mainly because it has been awarded by the Flyers. They should have realized where they are in their rebuild and let him go.
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Amen. Very few players are worth retaining in a rebuild - Stamkos and Mackinnon did but for good reason. TK is not even close to either of those players.
 
The boy is crushing it, and the addition of Michkov, even while he's playing on another line at even strength, has upgraded the OT and power play to a noticeable degree, with TK being one of those who has capitalized and benefited the most.

It makes the understandable concerns about the commitment to a Top50 type contract for a team in rebuild kinda fade away. And given it is a pre-cap 2025 increase contract, and not in place until next season, and still in the #40-50 range, if even that, by the time it is in force...well, it seems like an awfully good decision.

P.S. After the conclusion of this season and next, Flyers will have 10.7 million in dead cap money ready to spend, if they manage to keep away from any more salary retentions in the meantime (looking at you, Rasmus Ristolainen!). Plus whatever the cap increase gets them. That is the next big crucial decision for management...and TK being there, at a slightly-below league avaerage salary for his quality is in no way a problem.

P.P.S. Big money UFA centres that Flyers could target at the conclusion of 2025-26 season with that kind of money include: Connor McDavid, Jack Eichel, Martin Necas, Adrian Kempe...
 
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eramosat said:
The boy is crushing it, and the addition of Michkov, even while he's playing on another line at even strength, has upgraded the OT and power play to a noticeable degree, with TK being one of those who has capitalized and benefited the most.

It makes the understandable concerns about the commitment to a Top50 type contract for a team in rebuild kinda fade away. And given it is a pre-cap 2025 increase contract, and not in place until next season, and still in the #40-50 range, if even that, by the time it is in force...well, it seems like an awfully good decision.

P.S. After the conclusion of this season and next, Flyers will have 10.7 million in dead cap money ready to spend, if they manage to keep away from any more salary retentions in the meantime (looking at you, Rasmus Ristolainen!). Plus whatever the cap increase gets them. That is the next big crucial decision for management...and TK being there, at a slightly-below league avaerage salary for his quality is in no way a problem.

P.P.S. Big money UFA centres that Flyers could target at the conclusion of 2025-26 season with that kind of money include: Connor McDavid, Jack Eichel, Martin Necas, Adrian Kempe...
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You think any of those players will hit free agency?? And if they did, you think they would pick philly to sign with?

Seems like a far fetched pipe dream
 
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