It was acceptable when Kucherov did itRJO loophole he's trying to exploit is waiting until right before the season starts to get a surgery he, apparently, needs
It was acceptable when Kucherov did itRJO loophole he's trying to exploit is waiting until right before the season starts to get a surgery he, apparently, needs
I'm rightly upset this unethical guy poisoned the water by claiming his client wouldn't report to wherever he was traded and thus violating his contract. A problem no team is trading for, and a great way for an unethical agent to tank his client's trade value when his full NMC drops to a partial no trade and he doesn't want to be traded.Sounds like a Rangers fan salty that Trouba wouldn't waive
If he violated his contract he wouldn't be a Ranger right nowI'm rightly upset this unethical guy poisoned the water by claiming his client wouldn't report to wherever he was traded and thus violating his contract. A problem no team is trading for, and a great way for an unethical agent to tank his client's trade value when his full NMC drops to a partial no trade.
Shocking, that when it benefits the team they find it acceptable yeah. In this case it hurts the Flyers.It was acceptable when Kucherov did it
lol incredible how you guys always manager to turn everything into a "blame torts we hate torts" narrative.RyJo situation: They took him to get a 1st from Colorado. He was willing to play but Tortorella did not want him on the roster. So they DOA'd his career to make their hardass coach happy. He responded by claiming an injury.
Their top goalie prospect is currently demanding a release from his contract to return to the KHL because they stuck him in the AHL without a translator and made him ride the bench while cap dump Cal Petersen started every game. Because a short AHL playoff run is, of course, more important than developing prospects by playing them.
They're a sloppy, unprofessional organization run by a GM with no prior experience, their ex-color commentator, and a random health insurance executive meant to oversee everything. Their coach was hired directly by the cable company that owns them, because he gave off good hardass vibes that are the only thing the cable company understands about hockey and the Flyers as an entity.
Badly run company.
Well no, you need to actually violate the contract. An agent screaming it just tanks trade value (a totally unethical move). It doesn't violate the contract. A contract is only violated once the action occurs. Threats of it don't violate a contract.If he violated his contract he wouldn't be a Ranger right now
Well he wasn't even going to be playing for the Flyers, they just sent him down straight away because Torts likely said the same thing to Briere "he ain't coming to my locker room".I'm making assumptions, but my read on the situation is he likely was/is legitimately injured to some degree but was playing though it in Colorado, because he was playing for something.
Then he got traded to Flyers and suddenly didn't want to play through it anymore on a team that likely was missing the playoffs and for a coach he did not mesh with previously.
Becomes somewhat of a grey area. Yeah he probably was injured to some degree but if you play through it on one team, you should play through it on another team assuming the injury and pain are the same as it was.
Well. You can call him whatever you want. If the suregery is scheduled I really don't see the flyers have a case here. Players put off surgeries all the tike trying other treatments first. Surgery comes with risks, so not that surprising they use them as a last resort.Pretty simple, really.
Injury was a surprise at the time, but considered minor by all doctors who looked at him, which seems logical given he was playing for the avs and had even been at the morning skate the day of the trade.
Now, apparently, he needs a complex surgery, and it just so happens that he had to wait until right before the season starts?
Get f***ed RJO. Adios, loser
If it was that bad why would he still be practicing like normal? Wouldn't be at least be taking rest days?I'm making assumptions, but my read on the situation is he likely was/is legitimately injured to some degree but was playing though it in Colorado, because he was playing for something.
Then he got traded to Flyers and suddenly didn't want to play through it anymore on a team that likely was missing the playoffs and for a coach he did not mesh with previously.
Becomes somewhat of a grey area. Yeah he probably was injured to some degree but if you play through it on one team, you should play through it on another team assuming the injury and pain are the same as it was.
lol incredible how you guys always manager to turn everything into a "blame torts we hate torts" narrative.
RJO has been a locker room cancer, and the org just finally cleaned all the cancers from the room (Provorov, Hayes, TDA maybe) and you seriously think they wanted to bring in another? Flyers beat writers from the moment the trade happened said the flyers never planned to play him in the NHL, period.
This is all RJO not wanting to play in the AHL, peiod.
What?? He went to the AHL because he's complete ass, lazy, a poor model for young players on and off the ice, and we are prioritizing minutes to younger players with potential. Again, lazy af torts narrative.No f***ing shit man. Because Torts is the reason they were sending him to the AHL in the first place (it wasn't because they had too many NHL centers...)
Guess what? Part of managing a hockey team is figuring out how to deal with hockey players. How to avoid drama and maximize performance. They keep failing at that time and time again.
I'm still not sure how it hurts the Flyers. I know about the overage penalty, but if I'm them I'd still rather have him on LTIR this year as opposed to having most of his cap hit count in the AHL.Shocking, that when it benefits the team they find it acceptable yeah. In this case it hurts the Flyers.
Ah I misread that part of the post. Thought you were implying what Trouba/Overhardt said violated the contract. However I can't blame the player for wanting to maximize the trade protection.Well no, you need to actually violate the contract. An agent screaming it just tanks trade value (a totally unethical move). It doesn't violate the contract. A contract is only violated once the action occurs. Threats of it don't violate a contract.
That's my read on it as well. However I think he was willing to play for the Flyers, the injury became not worth it once he realized he was getting sent down. Which to be fair I don't blame him at all for.I'm making assumptions, but my read on the situation is he likely was/is legitimately injured to some degree but was playing though it in Colorado, because he was playing for something.
Then he got traded to Flyers and suddenly didn't want to play through it anymore on a team that likely was missing the playoffs and for a coach he did not mesh with previously.
Becomes somewhat of a grey area. Yeah he probably was injured to some degree but if you play through it on one team, you should play through it on another team assuming the injury and pain are the same as it was.
What?? He went to the AHL because he's complete ass, lazy, a poor model for young players on and off the ice, and we are prioritizing minutes to younger players with potential. Again, lazy af torts narrative.
They were going to buy him out, but you can't do that if the player is injured.I'm still not sure how it hurts the Flyers. I know about the overage penalty, but if I'm them I'd still rather have him on LTIR this year as opposed to having most of his cap hit count in the AHL.
Wait, he wanted to play? Because he says he was injured and that’s why he refused the demotion. Which one is it?Surely you mean the guy they sent down who never had a chance at playing with them?
Now here's an answer that checks out. I missed that part of the equationThey were going to buy him out, but you can't do that if the player is injured.
Well he wasn't even going to be playing for the Flyers, they just sent him down straight away because Torts likely said the same thing to Briere "he ain't coming to my locker room
I'm guessing he was willing to play through it in the NHL but Torts/the Flyers wouldn't give him the time of dayWait, he wanted to play? Because he says he was injured and that’s why he refused the demotion. Which one is it?
Agree with your interpretation and conclusion. The only point I would clarify is that the Flyers never gave him a chance to play. They immediately tried to send him to the AHL. This wasn't a case of JR deciding that he didn't want to play for the Flyers. My "intrepretation" is that RJ didn't want to play and risk further making his injury situation worse playing for the Phantoms, which I can understand.I'm making assumptions, but my read on the situation is he likely was/is legitimately injured to some degree but was playing though it in Colorado, because he was playing for something.
Then he got traded to Flyers and suddenly didn't want to play through it anymore on a team that likely was missing the playoffs and for a coach he did not mesh with previously.
Becomes somewhat of a grey area. Yeah he probably was injured to some degree but if you play through it on one team, you should play through it on another team assuming the injury and pain are the same as it was.
Don’t let the arbitrator know that. You’ll tank his appeal.I'm guessing he was willing to play through it in the NHL but Torts/the Flyers wouldn't give him the time of day
Not sure what the two things have to do with one another.So with you being into ethics and all that, how did you feel about the Rangers getting around Goodrow's NTC by waiving him to the Sharks? Surely you were just as upset by that as you are with Trouba, right?
Example?Yeah. Or maybe something social media related ? If you like the wrong tweet these days , you're out