Contract Termination: [PHI] F Ryan Johansen placed on waivers by the Flyers for the purpose of contract termination (Johansen grieving)

[triggrman]

As long as that means the Preds get the associated cap relief I'm cool with that outcome, although I'm guessing our owners would rather not pay the 4 million that is the Preds responsibility.

I'd say if Philly, who actually own his contract are getting relief, the Predators who are just retaining, would certainly get it.

 

[eramosat]

This ^^^
Flyers clear the cap and RyJo gets his money.

This is so dumb.

There was never anything the Flyers tried to do where RyJo wouldn't end up getting his $$$. Go to the AHL, go on LTIR...what did he actually want from them that they wouldn't provide? Ahh...a buy-out...he wanted to avoid a buy-out!! And get all the money he possibly could...hence, his f***ery.

I hope he gets nothing. It's what he merits. Sign with another team if you like RyJo

 

[Flukeshot]

Apparently the CBA matter not though. A club can arbitrarily terminate a players contract and then it’s up to the player (with the help of the NHLPA) to fight that. Seems ass backwards but that how it goes.

Even as a Flyers fan who would obviously love that cap hit off the books, this process really does seem backwards. If thinking big picture, the cap hit should remain until it's resolved. It also seems like a poor practice to allow teams to terminate a contract and then have a cash settlement.

I'm curious to what the standard of evidence or claim from a team must be. Are medical records provided. If it's not medically related is it enough to say he won't report to assignment?

 

[FlyguyOX]

Should be even easier to get this guy off the books after the Lehner bullcrap

 

[Curufinwe]

Reading between the lines on Lehner it seems like Vegas had the legal right to terminate his deal and clear his cap hit, but the team and league were worried Lehner would do something drastic if that happened. So the compromise was to remove him from the cap, but Lehner still gets his money. Kind of unfair to the rest of the league, but better than the possible alternative.

 

[KrisLetAngry]

Reading between the lines on Lehner it seems like Vegas had the legal right to terminate his deal and clear his cap hit, but the team and league were worried Lehner would do something drastic if that happened. So the compromise was to remove him from the cap, but Lehner still gets his money. Kind of unfair to the rest of the league, but better than the possible alternative.

A little unfair but let's be real they will be in LTIR soon anyways.

Lehner didn't meet his obligations so Vegas was like let's not pay.
Agent is like come on Vegas you know my guy is mentally unwell.
Betttman is then like listen we can win win Here. Pay him Vegas but off the books.

It sucks but it was the right thing to do.

Now Johansen situation is interesting. It's not a secret NHL players play through injuries and most likely once he realized o I am not on a playoff team maybe I should stop playing with injuries. I do believe the surgery and injury is real.

I do wonder how this will be dealt with. With the lack of information we have its tough to know what to do with this.

 

[Curufinwe]

I haven't seen any info on him actually having a surgery or even what body part would be getting operated on

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

So, like has anything transpired, or no ?

 

[Armourboy]

I haven't seen any info on him actually having a surgery or even what body part would be getting operated on

My guess is its a foot/ankle/leg injury, at least lower half anyways knowing his injury history. Although I would have thought the same with Ellis and it ended up being something completely off the wall.

 

[FlyguyOX]

I haven't seen any info on him actually having a surgery or even what body part would be getting operated on

Saw info that he scheduled the surgery for late in 2024 right before the season or during the beginning of it. Also reported it's a hip injury