Confirmed Trade: [PHI/CBJ] Cam Atkinson for Jakub Voracek

[Voight]

Is Philly trying to make a playoff run despite having an average core?

 

[Maurice of Orange]

Is Philly trying to make a playoff run despite having an average core?

It would seem that way. If history is an indication of how the Flyers seasons have gone the last 10 seasons then the 21-22 season is a playoff year.

 

[rodney dangerfield]

i think its a win win honestly. jake isnt gonna belp cbj become a playoff team and cam could be an upgrade over jake and is cheaper. im just happy fletch didnt throw a free pick in there too

 

[BrindamoursNose]

I really like philly’s lineup the only problem with it is Kevin Hayes the weakest link. Hopefully Vigneault wises up and puts Hayes over to RW.

Line 1 LW Farabee C Couturier RW Konecny
Line 2 LW Van Riemsdyk C Giroux RW Atkinson
Line 3 LW Lindblom C Frost RW Hayes
Line 4 LW Aube-Kubel C Laughton RW Allison

1st Pair LD Provorov RD Ristolainen
2nd Pair LD Sanheim RD Ellis
3rd Pair LD York RD Braun

Goalies:
Starter: Hart
Backup: ???

Scratches:
RW/C Laczynski
LW/C Bunnaman
LD Morin < UFA Resigned

Hayes had a bad year, but he was injured probably most of the year. If Hayes regains form, he's a fine #2C.

Besides, moving Giroux to C is making him worse at this point. Giroux is a more natural LW at this stage in his career and he looks great.

 

[Maurice of Orange]

Hayes had a bad year, but he was injured probably most of the year. If Hayes regains form, he's a fine #2C.

Besides, moving Giroux to C is making him worse at this point. Giroux is a more natural LW at this stage in his career and he looks great.

Even though Giroux is 5 years older then Hayes, he is still a better player then Hayes and a better center, a better goal scorer, point producer, faceoff man and leader then Hayes is.

Hayes isn’t half the player Giroux is and I don’t take you to be a Hayes defender anyhow Brinda.

 

[BrindamoursNose]

Even though Giroux is 5 years older then Hayes, he is still a better player then Hayes and a better center, a better goal scorer, point producer, faceoff man and leader then Hayes is.

Hayes isn’t half the player Giroux is and I don’t take you to be a Hayes defender anyhow Brinda.

The problem is we don't have enough centers. Removing Hayes and putting G in still has us realistically 1 short. Laughton is better on the wing and Frost isn't proven.

I'm not a Hayes defender, but I don't think he's the scourge others do. I think if he made 5 million, people wouldn't get on him so much. He's clearly a guy we need right now barring a trade for another legit C, so I just don't even bother entertaining the thought. We have too many wingers and not enough Cs.

 

[Maurice of Orange]

The problem is we don't have enough centers. Removing Hayes and putting G in still has us realistically 1 short. Laughton is better on the wing and Frost isn't proven.

No worries Flyers have plenty of players that can center or temporarily place at center. Coots, G, Hayes, Lootin, Frost, Bunny, Laczynski or even a J. Cates recall.

 

[Zach716]

I think there needs to be an investigation into whether Fletcher is compromised. I’m actually only half joking

 

[Captain97]

Philly gets the worse player but saves a couple million

And voracek asked to be traded

 

[Captain97]

Am I the only who thinks the fact that Philly basically retooled their team in like 7 days is kinda crazy.

 

[mercury]

Am I the only who thinks the fact that Philly basically retooled their team in like 7 days is kinda crazy.

It's been a wild ride. I think the Risto trade was awful and Ghost was bad value, but Fletcher really did. . . something. I guess we shall see. His instinct that the team needed a shakeup was correct, but I am deeply skeptical about the long-term results given what assets were dealt away.

 

[bsu]

Why? For both teams? Why? Isn't Cam the only guy Laine gets along with?

 

[3074326]

Am I the only who thinks the fact that Philly basically retooled their team in like 7 days is kinda crazy.

Both teams have changed a whole lot in the last week. Pretty interesting offseason.

 

[BrindamoursNose]

Is Philly trying to make a playoff run despite having an average core?

Well the core was just changed pretty dramatically, if you hadn't noticed.

 

[He Is Knocking]

I like this trade for both teams, Voracek is a playmaker, Laine should pump up his numbers and the Flyers need a shoot first/finisher. Both clubs should benefit.

 

[Voight]

Well the core was just changed pretty dramatically, if you hadn't noticed.

My point stands

 

[ClevelandJacketFan]

Why? For both teams? Why? Isn't Cam the only guy Laine gets along with?

Pretty sure Cam was a leading influence in trying to get Laine traded.

The rumor was that the team leadership didn't like Laine. With Foligno, Savard, Cam and Jones all traded, the only "leader" left is Jenner.

 

[Boxscore]

Great trade for Philly.

 

[BrindamoursNose]

My point stands

It doesn't. It's inherently flawed.

 

[Boxscore]

Pretty sure Cam was a leading influence in trying to get Laine traded.

The rumor was that the team leadership didn't like Laine.

Laine was there for a cup of coffee -- if the team didn't like him, he must be a rotten person. How can you figure out if you like a teammate in a couple of months.

 

[HartOfPhilly]

I think this is a rare win win.

Jake will be a good fit next to Laine. He gives up on games and shifts. Turns the puck over a lot. However he's an elite playmaker. Laine should pot 35 again.

Atkinson is a shoot first player who finds the soft spots in the defense. With coots G he's an ideal fit. Flyers seriously lacked shoot first. Flyers had one the worst PK in the NHL last year. Atkinson is behind only Marchand in Shorties and will really sure that up. Plus he's relentless something our team has not had in years. There was a clear focus to get away from the slow starts and constant games or stretches where the team absolutely mails it in.

Love it both ways.

 

[majormajor]

Laine was there for a cup of coffee -- if the team didn't like him, he must be a rotten person. How can you figure out if you like a teammate in a couple of months.

When my men's team gets a new guy it usually takes me about three games.

 

[majormajor]

I think this is a rare win win.

Jake will be a good fit next to Laine. He gives up on games and shifts. Turns the puck over a lot. However he's an elite playmaker. Laine should pot 35 again.

Atkinson is a shoot first player who finds the soft spots in the defense. With coots G he's an ideal fit. Flyers seriously lacked shoot first. Flyers had one the worst PK in the NHL last year. Atkinson is behind only Marchand in Shorties and will really sure that up. Plus he's relentless something our team has not had in years. There was a clear focus to get away from the slow starts and constant games or stretches where the team absolutely mails it in.

Love it both ways.

You're right about the sniping and the PK stuff. Cam adds a ton of value there.

Don't look for a super relentless effort, he hasn't had that in five years. Cam is a moody sniper that gets visibly upset when he goes cold, and his effort level does wane when he loses confidence.

 

[Rebels57]

This really is a good deal for both teams.

Flyers save $2.35 per over the next 3 seasons while adding a player who is better defensively and is more of a goal scorer. They also shake up the core. Jake had been in Philly for 10 years and it was time to move on.

The Jackets get one of the better ES playmakers in the NHL and someone that can possibly breath new life into Laine. Jake feeding Laine one-timers on the PP should be very effective. They also get the shorter contract by 1 year.

Good stuff.

 

[Juicy Pop]

Is Philly trying to make a playoff run despite having an average core?

They're just trying to give Giroux one last shot and giving Couts a reason to re-up.