Phaneuf is a plug.

[ObnoxiousNeckbeard]

Clarkson, Phaneuf, Lupul

17,5 million dollars every year.

But at least LACK are gone, right?

 

[leafstilldeath*]

Gunnarsson carries him night in and night out. It's obvious when Phaneuf plays with another defenceman.

THIS

Cannot be said enough of it. Phaneuf is the most over rated D in the league

 

[Eb]

Maybe Sutter wasn't as bad of a GM as we thought he was....

Are you insinuating you wouldn't make that trade again and/or we are worse with Phaneuf on our team?

 

[leafstilldeath*]

I give it 1 more year and Rielly, and maybe Gardiner will be top pairing on the Leafs. Too bad by then it'll be too late to get rid of Phaneuf and that contract

If it is up to Carlyle Gardiner would be gone.

I hope both nonis and carlyle are gone before Gardiner

 

[leafstilldeath*]

Maybe Sutter wasn't as bad of a GM as we thought he was....

It was a CRAP for CRAP deal

we didn't get anything they didn't get anything

 

[johnny_rudeboy]

Maybe Sutter wasn't as bad of a GM as we thought he was....

Well he was involved in some lock room disputes as well (Regehr?) along with poor on ice performances so he was obvious one to go considering his contract. At least he not a locker room issue in Toronto. Unless you are to believe Aulie and then later on Schenn was traded for not getting along with Dion.

 

[DueDiligence]

I give it 1 more year and Rielly, and maybe Gardiner will be top pairing on the Leafs. Too bad by then it'll be too late to get rid of Phaneuf and that contract

Reilly I could see but Gardiner no. I have never seen a Dman take more chances than Gardiner.

 

[I am Canadian]

You guys are ridiculous. He's clearly been playing hurt and has been great up until these last stretches of games.

 

[Teeder9]

If it is up to Carlyle Gardiner would be gone.

I hope both nonis and carlyle are gone before Gardiner

I haven't been as high on Gardiner as most, but he's a left instead of right turn away from being that good on a consistent basis. He might never make that adjustment, but at least he isn't 28 and still waiting for it.

 

[ARoggy94]

I have nothing wrong with Phaneuf. The problem is he's a low end #1 D on a team with an awful D corp.

I'd like to see a trade for a real good stay at home then next year have:

Phaneuf - Gunnarson
Reilly/Gards - guy we trade for
Reilly/Gards - Gleason

A guy like Methot would be perfect but theres no way Ottawa letting him go. Ottawa got Methot for Foligno and a 2nd, hopefully Nonis can find a team willing to let a guy like him go.

 

[yakfish]

Lol, you guys are hilarious. I love my fellow Leaf fans. The ficklest of fickle.

You expect us to all be happy with flushing the playoffs down the crapper?

 

[AllHeartNoSkill]

Problem is it isn't going to happen.

Agreed. Typical Leafs fashion is they'll keep him as long as possible and tell people that he's great and hope we believe it.

 

[ARoggy94]

I haven't been as high on Gardiner as most, but he's a left instead of right turn away from being that good on a consistent basis. He might never make that adjustment, but at least he isn't 28 and still waiting for it.

He's had a tough season but in my opinion he's been one our best players in the past 15 games.

 

[Teeder9]

I have nothing wrong with Phaneuf. The problem is he's a low end #1 D on a team with an awful D corp.

I'd like to see a trade for a real good stay at home then next year have:

Phaneuf - Gunnarson
Reilly/Gards - guy we trade for
Reilly/Gards - Gleason

A guy like Methot would be perfect but theres no way Ottawa letting him go. Ottawa got Methot for Foligno and a 2nd, hopefully Nonis can find a team willing to let a guy like him go.

That is no different than what we have now. An average #2 and a pretty good #4 on a top pairing. The bigger problem we have is no money to spend to upgrade the defense. What you see is basically what you get

 

[TMLegend]

Are you insinuating you wouldn't make that trade again and/or we are worse with Phaneuf on our team?

I could think of better ways to spend 7 million dollars on a team.

 

[leafstilldeath*]

I haven't been as high on Gardiner as most, but he's a left instead of right turn away from being that good on a consistent basis. He might never make that adjustment, but at least he isn't 28 and still waiting for it.

Carlyle is running a stupid system where PMDs have no place on the team. All the passes are friggen stretch passes to the forwards that are already cheating.

Second,
Gardiner makes a mistake he gets benched

Phaneuf or Franson make mistakes they get to play 1st unit PPs

 

[pucky]

Agreed. Typical Leafs fashion is they'll keep him as long as possible and tell people that he's great and hope we believe it.

Typical Leaf fans will believe it by the end of the season. Then, they'll be calling him a Norris contender next year.

It's standard to dupe Leaf fans.

 

[Diatomic]

He has the IQ of a peanut. This team is filled with low IQ players, Clarktard, Raymond, Orr and Phaneuf are prime examples; with Phaneuf being their poster boy.

 

[Blufreezy]

They should strip him of the "C" just so he doesn't walk around town thinking he's some big shot captain.

I imagine they'll trade him before they strip the C.

 

[Eb]

I could think of better ways to spend 7 million dollars on a team.

Oh, anyone could.

But there's a difference between thinking and acquiring.

I am sure you know this, correct?

 

[Tie Domi Esquire]

silly thread

 

[yubbers]

You guys are ridiculous. He's clearly been playing hurt and has been great up until these last stretches of games.

You just ignore facts. Look at the fail throughout his career. The last 3 years of fail in YOUR city have been biblical

Stop defending Failneuf

 

[TMLegend]

Well he was involved in some lock room disputes as well (Regehr?) along with poor on ice performances so he was obvious one to go considering his contract. At least he not a locker room issue in Toronto. Unless you are to believe Aulie and then later on Schenn was traded for not getting along with Dion.

Where there's smoke there's usually fire.

 

[pucky]

He's had a tough season but in my opinion he's been one our best players in the past 15 games.

Gardiner is okay. Not good defensively but he's a PMD type and might improve the PP. Him and Reilly are their main PMD and after that, it's just slugs that cannot play the position at all. I would keep those two and totally clean out the rest of their dmen. Edit: Well, Gunnarsson isn't good or bad but he's not the problem. Okay, Reilly, Gardiner and Gunnarsson - so, get three new dmen. If the Leafs don't do this, they won't be any better. Gleason, Franson, Phaneuf and Ranger (sorry, but he has to go, too - glad he's okay) should be let go (traded/released/waived etc). They need to revamp the D.

 

[cupcrazyman]

Lol, you guys are hilarious. I love my fellow Leaf fans. The ficklest of fickle.

i cringed when we aquired him from Calgary.