I doubted whether he had a significant injury that was predominantly causing his bad play. And I’m still unsure.
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Its an injury where unless you are actually the one with it, you can't say how bad it is... so you guys are trying to find what you want to hear...
Looking at his play it is pretty obvious the effect it had on him... stop looking for Zebra's its a freaking Horse...
Looking at his play it is pretty obvious the effect it had on him... stop looking for Zebra's its a freaking Horse...
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Agreed on the first part. But Pettersson had an eerily similar terrible stretch of play a couple years ago and no injury was ever confirmed. So the premise that “he looks bad, he must be injured” is a poor one.
You mean when he was coming back from wrist surgery? another injury....
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I mean when he played terribly for three straight months or whatever, and continually rejected any speculation that he was injured. Boudreau was on a few weeks ago and talked about that slump, and not surprisingly, didn’t reference any injury causing it. He referenced confidence. The whole idea that his earlier slump was caused by injury is basically just unsubstantiated speculation which key actors have basically expressly rejected.
People like to ignore that all the 'symptoms' of his wrist/knee issues, all existed before those injuries.
Physically, he has mostly looked the same in all of the last 4 seasons. His production has taken huge swings, and has noticeably played harder with certain linemates, but his problems don't align with injuries at all.
Physically, he has mostly looked the same in all of the last 4 seasons. His production has taken huge swings, and has noticeably played harder with certain linemates, but his problems don't align with injuries at all.
Yes... this was just after his wrist surgery... he had it in the offseason. He had a very slow started... we all wondered... but it was after his surgery.
This is wildly incorrect...
Gold fish memories in here. EP's poor stretches, and PP suckage, are all a carbon copy of his 20-21 Canadian division season.
He came into that year, after his big playoff run, a completely different player. That version has never left any of the seasons since.
If we are being honest, the cracks showed in his first 2 seasons as well, but he was just a kid, with all the potential in the world. There was no reason for concern then. There sure is now.
He came into that year, after his big playoff run, a completely different player. That version has never left any of the seasons since.
If we are being honest, the cracks showed in his first 2 seasons as well, but he was just a kid, with all the potential in the world. There was no reason for concern then. There sure is now.
I don’t think Pettersson ever had wrist surgery. Based on a quick google search, I think he had his wrist injury the season before his long struggles.
So again, I think you are just speculating without any real evidence that an injury caused his last slump.
Sorry you are correct he did not have surgery... but it was over a year to recover because of this... you can read the article here.
Finally fully recovered from a wrist injury, Elias Pettersson is officially back (and with enough time to make this season a respectable one)
It’s been a long, arduous process that’s nearly taken an entire calend...
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It’s possible there was a lingering effect early in the season. But it’s hard to say how long that affected him for. IIRC, he was asked specifically whether he was injured and denied it. Confidence is also highlighted in that article.Sorry you are correct he did not have surgery... but it was over a year to recover because of this... you can read the article here.
Finally fully recovered from a wrist injury, Elias Pettersson is officially back (and with enough time to make this season a respectable one)
It’s been a long, arduous process that’s nearly taken an entire calend...
IIRC... until the end of this season he said no injury... as did the coaching staff... almost like people don't want to use it as an excuse.... even when it is.
But he disclosed his injury this time. So why now verses not earlier where he rejected the injury speculation multiple times? And again, Boudreau, who presumably would have known, made no mention and thought it was a confidence thing.
Anyway, I don’t think we will ever truly know. But I also think people shouldn’t feel strongly either way (not saying you do).
Cause the injury had already happened... like he was coming back from it... it had also already been diagnosed.
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You mean when Benning allowed two of the free agents (Tanev and Toffoli) to walk for absolutely nothing when both he and Hughes went to management themselves to support bringing them back? And one of those players the entire locker room affectionately called "dad".
Yeah, I wouldn't put a lot of effort in either. Especially not after busting my ass off for a playoff run nobody expected us to go on--nearly ousting Vegas only for management to blow up the whole team as our "reward."
It wasn't as though he was the only one who played poorly that year either. Hughes was awful after Tanev left, and we spent nearly three years looking for a replacement.
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Hughes for Ty Smith was very seriously discussed at HF after Hughes had that season.
I bet a large % of the people who want Petey traded were also on the trade Hughes wagon back then.
You’re mixing up years here. Pettersson was injured early into the following season. His slump was the season after that (2 seasons after Toffoli/Tanev). Hughes was bad in the Covid shortned year but turned the corner the year Pettersson slumped.
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I wouldn't draw too much in the performance of guys like Hughes or Pettersson during this period. Minor league head coaching I doubt helped in their progression (nor much of the team). I'd argue the fact they developed at all was a miracle (or a testiment to how good they were - growing in spite of the coaching).
I honestly don’t have much of an appetite to keep debating this, but he was asked, I think multiple times, during that bad stretch of play, whether he was injured and he said no. The implication would obviously be that he had healed from his injury. Keep in mind this bad stretch was like 2-4 month bad stretch, IIRC. But you, of course, are entitled to the view that his injury from the season before was having lingering affects that explains his poor play in that year. I obviously can’t refute that, and acknowledge that it may well have had an effect.
My point is that we don’t know the exact degree to which Pettersson’s knee injury caused his bad play, and that is extremely relevant in analyzing his season last year and projecting his future performance.
My opinion, is that yeah... it effected his ability to train and it took him a while to get back on track... Like most people coming back from injury.
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